# How can anyone vote for Trump in 2020? No. But Seriously **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 19, 2020, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506 "2020-08-19T18:09:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![urbanredneck2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/5f8ce5/32.png) [@urbanredneck2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/urbanredneck2)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/261 "2020-08-25T14:55:22Z")
It could also be because the democrats are not offering a good alternative. I mean the best they could do in 2016 was Hillary. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/262 "2020-08-25T15:02:49Z")
> [@urbanredneck2](#): > > It could also be because the democrats are not offering a good alternative. I mean the best they could do in 2016 was Hillary. - Hell of a better choice than the _thing_ in the White House. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/263 "2020-08-25T15:05:38Z")
> [@urbanredneck2](#): > > It could also be because the democrats are not offering a good alternative. I mean the best they could do in 2016 was Hillary. Who would you consider to be a good Democratic Party alternative? Name one that you’d actually vote for. Not just say that you would, but actually go through with checking the box for. ---
**Author:** ![urbanredneck2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/5f8ce5/32.png) [@urbanredneck2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/urbanredneck2)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/264 "2020-08-25T21:01:11Z")
Hmmm… I dont know. I was ok with Obama. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/265 "2020-08-25T21:10:45Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > If Trump can ‘fix’ these cities, why isn’t he doing it now? Same reason he, in 3-1/2 years in office, chose not to refill the cabinets, cupboards, whatever of pandemic emergency supplies that he claims Obama left empty. Trump voters: Your man is full of shit, always. Your man is a liar. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/266 "2020-08-25T21:11:42Z")
Not only has he not refilled them, but he sold the contents off. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/267 "2020-08-25T21:26:01Z")
But you’re not okay with the man Obama entrusted with the vice presidency for 8 years? ---
**Author:** ![urbanredneck2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/5f8ce5/32.png) [@urbanredneck2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/urbanredneck2)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/268 "2020-08-25T22:03:34Z")
Maybe back then. But now he has grown senile and will probably not make it a full 4 years. Harris seems a little to far to the left. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/269 "2020-08-25T22:07:40Z")
You think he’s senile because the media you consume pushes that story. Even Rush was sniffing his own farts and simply couldn’t believe that Biden did his speech live. Watch the speech, and tell me he’s senile. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/pnmQr0WfSvo/hqdefault.jpg "Joe Biden Acceptance Speech at 2020 Democratic National Convention") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnmQr0WfSvo) It’s worth looking at. Biden is an old man. He talks like an old man. He’s not addled. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/270 "2020-08-25T22:21:48Z")
Ain’t no way Trump would make it through a 24½ minute speech without his brain skipping a groove at least once. > ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/271 "2020-08-25T22:22:00Z")
A)Cite that’s not from some bullshit garbage site. 2)you would still vote Trump because of this? Seriously? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/272 "2020-08-25T22:27:12Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Even Rush was sniffing his own farts and simply couldn’t believe that Biden did his speech live. > Watch the speech, and tell me he’s senile. Yeah, but nobody put any tricky words to read in there, like “Yosemite”. That shit is HARD to read! Ask Trump, who fucked that shit all up. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/QIRqvXD648w/maxresdefault.jpg "Trump struggles to say 'Yosemite' at White House speech") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIRqvXD648w) ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/273 "2020-08-25T22:53:14Z")
I’m not sure what specific data you have to support the claim that Biden is unlikely to be able to serve at least 4 years as president. But even if you are right, nothing about Harris’s background should lead you to conclude that she is too far to the left. She is as moderate on virtually every single issue as Biden. What specific policy supported by Harris during her run for nomination leads you to conclude that she is anything other than a middle of the road Democrat? If memory serves, I believe you said that you were in support of Bernie Sanders and his very progressive policies related to healthcare and education reform. Am I mischaracterizing what you’ve said in the past? If not, how do you reconcile your position on Biden/Harris now? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/274 "2020-08-25T23:02:37Z")
> [@urbanredneck2](#): > > Now you have [protesters demanding white people hand over their homes.](https://nypost.com/2020/08/14/seattle-blm-protesters-demand-white-people-give-up-their-homes/) Yeah, two people said something stupid. (Apparently, in response to gentrification of their neighborhood) The horror. > Footage of the Wednesday demonstration [posted to Twitter](https://twitter.com/ThoughtSoup1/status/1293816196282716161) shows a crowd of dozens chanting “Black lives matter” before **an unidentified man** projects his ire toward nearby white residents — saying they are living in a historically black section of the city as **another woman** in the crowd yells that they should “give up” their homes, the clip shows. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/275 "2020-08-26T00:54:39Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > > [@Lobohan](#): > > > > Even Rush was sniffing his own farts and simply couldn’t believe that Biden did his speech live. > > Watch the speech, and tell me he’s senile. > > Yeah, but nobody put any tricky words to read in there, like “Yosemite”. That shit is HARD to read! Ask Trump, who fucked that shit all up. > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIRqvXD648w](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIRqvXD648w) Trump was just referring to this shirt: > **[Weitzman National Museum of American Jewish History Store](https://shoptheweitzman.org/)** > > We have the largest selection of Ketubot and Judaica for all of your celebratory needs. Your purchase supports the mission of the museum. 100% of all net proceeds to go the Weitzman National Museum of American Jewish History. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/276 "2020-08-26T01:12:01Z")
> [@furt](#): > > Most successful foreign policy president in 30 years. If you define success as “pissing off many of your allies and sucking up to Putin”, then I guess you are correct. > **[WTO decision on softwood lumber cheered by Canadian producers, denounced in...](https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/canada-softwood-lumber-1.5698013)** > > Canadian lumber producers cheered the latest decision Monday from the World Trade Organization on Canada's long-standing dispute with its largest trading partner over exports of softwood lumber — a finding the United States quickly denounced as... > **[Trump imposing new aluminum tariff, Canada readies countermeasures](https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/trump-imposing-new-aluminum-tariff-canada-readies-countermeasures-1.5054066)** > > Canada is planning to retaliate with countermeasures after U.S. President Donald Trump announced his plans to impose a 10-per-cent tariff on Canadian aluminum imports, despite condemnation from aluminum organizations on both sides of the border. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/277 "2020-08-26T01:16:44Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > > [@urbanredneck2](#): > > > > You also have homeless camps set up nearly everywhere. > > Traveling the past couple of years, I was impressed at the homeless presence in Denver and Austin. While that did not thrill me, I’m unaware of the Republican plans to improve/change the situation. Please educate me. It will improve because of the Trump campaign office promises - to wit: Fully Fund and Hire More Police and Law Enforcement Officers Increase Criminal Penalties for Assaults on Law Enforcement Officers End Cashless Bail and Keep Dangerous Criminals Locked Up until Trial ---
**Author:** ![urbanredneck2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/5f8ce5/32.png) [@urbanredneck2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/urbanredneck2)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/278 "2020-08-26T01:27:34Z")
[quote=“QuickSilver, post:273, topic:918506, full:true”] If memory serves, I believe you said that you were in support of Bernie Sanders and his very progressive policies related to healthcare and education reform. Am I mischaracterizing what you’ve said in the past? If not, how do you reconcile your position on Biden/Harris now? [/quote]I still support a national healthcare system. I like some of his ideas like making college free but I dont see how that would work. ---
**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/279 "2020-08-26T01:38:36Z")
So what about Harris is too progressive for you? ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506/280 "2020-08-26T02:10:28Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > End Cashless Bail and Keep Dangerous Criminals Locked Up until Trial Ah yes - the most expensive of all possible public housing programs! 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-anyone-vote-for-trump-in-2020-no-but-seriously/918506.md?page=15)