# How can Biden use the recent SCOTUS Immunity ruling to his benefit?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 1, 2024, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-biden-use-the-recent-scotus-immunity-ruling-to-his-benefit/1003589 "2024-07-01T18:29:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-biden-use-the-recent-scotus-immunity-ruling-to-his-benefit/1003589/142 "2024-07-27T01:42:28Z")

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I think murder is a state crime so the president has no ability to pardon that act.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-biden-use-the-recent-scotus-immunity-ruling-to-his-benefit/1003589/143 "2024-07-27T01:56:23Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> Go for broke. Since he took an oath to see that all laws be faithfully executed and six justices have ruled he doesn’t have to obey laws, arrest all 6 and throw them in the clink.

They rule on cases. The case had to do with Trump obeying laws. Why do people think it applies to a case that hasn’t come before the court?

We know they would rule against Biden if he tried this.

Pushing this is a possibility:

[Proposed Amendment Would Plug the Hole Caused by ‘Trump v. U.S.’](https://www.thebulwark.com/p/trump-constitutional-amendment-immunity-pardon?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email)

According to my link, the proposed amendment has no chance of getting the needed congressional supermajority. But what if there was a clause exempting Trump? I doubt that one is ever going to jail, amendment or no amendment.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-biden-use-the-recent-scotus-immunity-ruling-to-his-benefit/1003589/144 "2024-07-27T02:10:18Z")

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It won’t get passed, and the reason doesn’t matter because Biden is a Democrat.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-biden-use-the-recent-scotus-immunity-ruling-to-his-benefit/1003589/145 "2024-07-27T02:22:08Z")

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You are almost certainly correct. But I didn’t specify exempting Biden, just Trump. So it would be tempting to the GOP.

As to how this benefits Biden, only in historical reputation.

As to the chance of it being used against Biden, I think ratification would take too long.

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**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-biden-use-the-recent-scotus-immunity-ruling-to-his-benefit/1003589/146 "2024-07-27T02:25:27Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> You are almost certainly correct. But I didn’t specify exempting Biden, just Trump. So it would be tempting to the GOP.

Again I say it won’t get passed, and the reason doesn’t matter because Biden is a Democrat. If Biden wants it they are willing to shoot themselves in the foot with a howitzer to oppose it.

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**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-biden-use-the-recent-scotus-immunity-ruling-to-his-benefit/1003589/147 "2024-07-27T19:15:20Z")

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> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> What? When did they do that?

When they ruled that Colorado could not keep Trump off the ballot because congress had passed no law implementing the insurrection clause of Amendment XIV.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-biden-use-the-recent-scotus-immunity-ruling-to-his-benefit/1003589/148 "2024-07-28T21:07:55Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> When they ruled that Colorado could not keep Trump off the ballot because congress had passed no law implementing the insurrection clause of Amendment XIV.

IMHO- that was a correct ruling. Can you imagine what could happen if it wasnt? Some deeply red state deciding that the Dem candidate cant be on the ballot- for reasons. Note that trump was never convicted of any such crimes.

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**Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-biden-use-the-recent-scotus-immunity-ruling-to-his-benefit/1003589/149 "2024-07-29T13:01:35Z")

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