# How can Donald Trump win at this point?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump, kamala-harris\
**Created:** [August 6, 2024, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351 "2024-08-06T21:13:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/401 "2024-08-12T15:27:05Z")

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Btw, Trump is now posting on Truth Social (lol) that Harris is faking big crowds with AI.

If this doesn’t scream WEAKNESS, I wouldn’t know what could.

I really feel that things can’t continue this way and some sort of catastrophic implosion is immanent.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/402 "2024-08-12T15:30:09Z")

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And now he’s attacking donors:

> **[Trump's blasts billionaire GOP megadonor Miriam Adelson with angry text...](https://www.salon.com/2024/08/12/blasts-billionaire-donor-with-angry-text-messages/?in_brief=true)**
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When Biden started shedding donors, that was the end…

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**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/403 "2024-08-12T15:30:36Z")

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I really hate those videos with some young kid blathering on about how big this news is. Any chance we get a recap of what’s in the videos?

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/404 "2024-08-12T15:33:57Z")

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> [@OldOlds](#):
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> Any chance we get a recap of what’s in the videos?

The hackers have posted videos that would be used to train people in the redux Trump administration on how to implement Project 2025. They’re insanely creepy and… insane.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/405 "2024-08-12T16:19:53Z")

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If you can’t win at one game, some would try to change the game to one with better odds.

Trump made a big deal out of challenging Biden to play golf. Harris probably does not play golf (but I have no idea, certainly less often than The Donald). Chess is probably out.

Perhaps a game of high-stakes Rock Paper Scissors?

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/406 "2024-08-12T16:24:57Z")

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Looks like Trump’s finally getting out of bed – his campaign has announced an event in North Carolina and a rally in Pennsylvania later this week.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/407 "2024-08-12T16:25:26Z")

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Trump should attack popular State governors.

**From the Economist:** _In Atlanta Trump Is Playing With Fire._ (Latest edition; posted Aug 12/24.)

_Among the many [odd moves](https://www.economist.com/united-states/2024/08/07/the-wisdom-in-calling-donald-trump-weird) Donald Trump has made since [Kamala Harris](https://www.economist.com/united-states/2024/08/05/kamala-harris-leads-donald-trump-in-our-nationwide-poll-tracker) swooped into the presidential race last month, one of the strangest came at a campaign rally in Atlanta on August 3rd. That night Mr Trump devoted 11 minutes of his speech to insulting Brian Kemp, Georgia’s Republican governor. He reprimanded “little Brian” for being “disloyal” by refusing to overturn Georgia’s election results in 2020. He said that under Mr Kemp’s leadership the state had “become a laughing-stock” and Atlanta a “killing field”, suggested that the governor was behind his criminal prosecution in Fulton County and accused him of “doing everything possible” to make Republicans lose in November._

_Georgia Republicans swiftly came to their governor’s defence. “History has taught us this type of message doesn’t sell well here in Georgia, sir,” Brad Raffensperger, the secretary of state, wrote on X. Yet Mr Trump doubled down in a press conference on August 8th. Patricia Murphy, a columnist at the Atlanta Journal Constitution, summed it all up as a strategy for “how to lose a state in ten days”…_

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/408 "2024-08-12T16:31:09Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> In any case, I doubt trump will have any more rallies anywhere other than indoor areas that have extremely tight security.

I think I read here on the SDMB that the indoor venues don’t want him. He doesn’t pay his bills. I guess that would come out of the GOP funds though?

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/409 "2024-08-12T16:36:52Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> complaining about Melania obliquely: “I know a lot of wives who wouldn’t have said that,” referring to the woman who lost her husband in the assassination attempt on Trump and said she would rather have him with her than have him die a hero

Actually, the comparison was between having him alive and having “a million dollars”.

Because Trump’s wives have _always_ been interested in his money.

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> The GOP presidential nominee told the crowd that a friend of his had given Comperatore’s family a $1 million check, and he also made reference to money donated to the family’s GoFundMe.
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> "But you know what? Corey’s wife said, ‘I’d rather have my husband,’” Trump said.
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> “Isn’t that good? I know a lot of wives that would not say that — I’m sorry," he continued, as the crowd laughed. “They would not say that.”

> **[Trump makes callous joke while honoring the man killed at his Butler rally](https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/shows/top-stories/blog/rcna164738)**
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> “Corey’s wife said, ‘I’d rather have my husband,’” Trump said of Corey Comperatore’s widow. “Isn’t that good? I know a lot of wives that would not say that.”

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/410 "2024-08-12T16:41:44Z")

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Oh, even worse! Trump never fails to fail.

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**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/411 "2024-08-12T16:42:39Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> “Isn’t that good? I know a lot of wives that would not say that — I’m sorry," he continued, as the crowd laughed. “They would not say that.”

Well, I can think of one wife in particular that probably would not say that.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/412 "2024-08-12T16:43:23Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> …I know a lot of wives that would not say that…

“…and several of them have been married to me.”

> [@OldOlds](#):
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> Well, I can think of one wife in particular that probably would not say that.

OldOlds, you are a regular old ninja…

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/413 "2024-08-12T18:43:33Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> Btw, Trump is now posting on Truth Social (lol) that Harris is faking big crowds with AI.
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> If this doesn’t scream WEAKNESS, I wouldn’t know what could.
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> I really feel that things can’t continue this way and some sort of catastrophic implosion is immanent.

It wasn’t that long ago Trump was begging Congress to bail him out of his legal troubles. He’s whined about how mean and unfair the legal system and the media is to him. He’s been declaring his weakness for a while but the MAGA crowd doesn’t seem to mind for some reason.

I’ve said before that Trump is either going to be elected in 2024 or he’s going to crash spectacularly. He’s going to crash and in the process he’ll do as much damage as he possibly can.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/414 "2024-08-12T18:46:59Z")

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Said another way, everything trump touches turns to shit. Which may be the whole USA, or it may mostly be trump himself. But shit it will be, thanks to him.

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**Author:** ![Dogginit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogginit/32/16920_2.png) [@Dogginit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogginit)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/415 "2024-08-12T18:50:46Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Said another way, everything trump touches turns to shit

So we need to come up with another version of “King Midas”

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/416 "2024-08-12T18:55:17Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> The Secret Service had been incompetent, and the director resigned almost immediately.

I disagree.

> [@Aeschines](#):
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> Btw, Trump is now posting on Truth Social (lol) that Harris is faking big crowds with AI.

> **[US candidate Kamala Harris's rally crowd photos not altered with AI | AAP](https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/us-candidate-kamala-harriss-rally-crowd-photos-not-altered-with-ai/)**
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> Social media is ablaze with claims that images of the vice president's Detroit airport hangar rally were altered using AI technology to add a crowd, but it's not true.

# US candidate Kamala Harris’s rally crowd photos not altered with AI

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/417 "2024-08-12T18:59:03Z")

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The Secret Service hadn’t been incompetent? Please explain–I don’t have much knowledge or a strong opinion about it.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/418 "2024-08-12T19:03:08Z")

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An ex-president doesn’t get the kind of protection a sitting president does, not to mention, trump doesnt listen to them, and trump wont pay for add’l local police protection. That doesnt mean that mistakes werent made, mind you. But there is a huge gap between a mistake and incompetence.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/419 "2024-08-12T19:04:19Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> He’s been declaring his weakness for a while but the MAGA crowd doesn’t seem to mind for some reason.

Yeah, I’ve never understood this. If Biden was able to steal an election from the _sitting president_ in 2020, then… that president is a weak chump for not having seen and prevented that possibility, right? Pissing and moaning about every fucking thing isn’t a great look, one would think.

Perhaps it’s because he mirrors the resentment and self-perceived downtroddenness of his base that it works for him.

That said, I think complaining about crowd size and accusing the Harris-Walz campaign of deepfakes is different. The reason is that Trump’s rallies were a genuine sign of strength at one point, and now he’s being beaten at his own game. Plus, there’s _strong_ crazy, and then there’s _weak_ crazy. Trump has entered weak crazy mode, and I’m not sure there’s a way back out for him.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/420 "2024-08-12T19:06:48Z")

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> [@Dogginit](#):
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> > [@LSLGuy](#):
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> > Said another way, everything trump touches turns to shit
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> So we need to come up with another version of “King Midas”

“King Merdes”

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