# How can Donald Trump win at this point? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump, kamala-harris\ **Created:** [August 6, 2024, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351 "2024-08-06T21:13:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 99
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/1961 "2024-09-11T10:19:37Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > ETA: I’m worried that you Dems found someone with more energy than a corgi to run for President. It’s OK for this election but please don’t make it a habit. I see your concern on this. Acknowledged. I do think the debate helped though. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/1962 "2024-09-11T11:35:37Z")
Oh, and Tay-Tay endorsed Harris. Can’t hurt. ---
**Author:** ![TeroSunbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terosunbear/32/14748_2.png) [@TeroSunbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeroSunbear)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/1963 "2024-09-11T12:27:47Z")
A plus would have been to point out that Trump’s invaders, including Hannibal Lecter, are fictional characters. The dystopia is in his mind. ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/1964 "2024-09-11T17:29:47Z")
> [@TeroSunbear](#): > > The dystopia is in his mind If he had said, instead of or in addition to the pet eating bit, that an army of Orcs, Visigoths, and the undead had invaded Springfield, it would not have been any more ridiculous. Yet people still support him. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/1965 "2024-09-11T22:48:21Z")
> [@Win\_Place\_Show](#): > > I admittedly checked out of this thread a couple of weeks (and 4- 500 posts) ago because of the numerous “Kamala will get north of 400 Electoral votes, no question” and “break out the cigars and brandy, boys… he’s in an unrecoverable death spiral now!” posts. I don’t think that has been the main tone of the thread, and not of my posts. It’s true that Trump himself is spiraling. What his cult chooses to do with that is a separate matter. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/1966 "2024-09-11T23:58:12Z")
The enthusiasm gap is becoming a chasm. From a Facebook friend of mine, a guy I had lunch with a few times, a true MAGA: [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53987822187_db90f4bc0d_b.jpg "Copium") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/53987822187/) ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/1968 "2024-09-12T00:43:16Z")
Trump’s hopes officially ended last night. I mean, it was basically over the moment Kamala entered the race, but last night was the icing touchdown in the last minute of the fourth quarter to put the race out of reach. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/1969 "2024-09-12T00:47:28Z")
Nevermind ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/1970 "2024-09-12T00:48:30Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Trump’s hopes officially ended last night. I mean, it was basically over the moment Kamala entered the race, but last night was the icing touchdown in the last minute of the fourth quarter to put the race out of reach. I couldn’t disagree more. I would put money on her winning the popular vote but that doesn’t matter. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/1971 "2024-09-12T01:39:28Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Trump’s hopes officially ended last night. If and when I see Trump polling like Goldwater and McGovern did, then I will agree with you. The debate was too early. Her bounce will have plenty of time to wear off. Romney once – as measured by post-debate polling – defeated Obama just as badly, and Obama came back. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/1972 "2024-09-12T01:58:55Z")
Comparing the performance of Obama in any debate to the display of insanity we saw last night from DJT is laughable. Yes, whatever bounce Harris gets from last night could well wear off before Election Day but claiming Obama lost to Romney just as badly is ludicrous. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/1973 "2024-09-12T02:03:14Z")
The race is far from over. But Harris undoubtedly solidified support, and Trump scared the hell out of a lot of people. Remember that in 2016 - the only election Trump has ever won - both he and his opponent had very high negative ratings. Clinton v Trump was unprecedented in the degree to which voters _didn’t like_ the candidates. I do think that Trump was hardened that dislike, and likely expanded it. He’s angry, and unhinged. I think a lot of people will be motivated to vote against that. But we are still in mid September. We still have a fed rate cut to come, and that Trump movie (which is getting award buzz) arrives October 11th. A new trailer has dropped. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/0tXEN0WNJUg/hqdefault.jpg "The Apprentice | Official Trailer | Exclusively in Theaters October 11") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tXEN0WNJUg) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/1974 "2024-09-12T03:06:03Z")
I suspect the biggest impact of the debate will be providing ammo for memes and political ads over the next couple of months. And there was a **lot**. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/1975 "2024-09-12T03:13:36Z")
As I said above, Trump is complete unhinged dogshit yapping about people eating dogs. If his cult wants to support that, and if independents want to choose that over Harris, then there is nothing that good people can do. Do I think that independents will actually break that way and elect this orange _slime mold_ again, eight years later? No. Do I think it will a huge blowout for Harris? No. Just a solid win. And that’s fine with me. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/1976 "2024-09-12T04:10:01Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Trump’s hopes officially ended last night. I mean, it was basically over the moment Kamala entered the race, but last night was the icing touchdown in the last minute of the fourth quarter to put the race out of reach. Would you give me ten to one odds, then? ---
**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/1977 "2024-09-12T04:42:30Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Romney once – as measured by post-debate polling – defeated Obama just as badly, and Obama came back. That was the first of three debates. Obama destroyed him in the other two. There is no guarantee there will be any more Presidential debates before election day. Apples and oranges. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/1978 "2024-09-12T04:58:10Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Would you give me ten to one odds, then? If he is going to stake you @ 10-1, please cut me in on the ante. 🙃 ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/1979 "2024-09-12T06:18:24Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > Do I think it will a huge blowout for Harris? No. Just a solid win. And that’s fine with me. Which is the problem. The MAGAts need to be kicked in the face this election so hard they’ll leave the country in disgust because they’ll realize their agenda won’t fly, ever. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/1980 "2024-09-12T06:23:45Z")
Yeah, this. Remember all the “Trump is done!” proclamations after the last election? ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/1981 "2024-09-12T06:31:35Z")
Boy, do I. I started [this clock](https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20210120T12&p0=263&msg=No+more+Trump&font=cursive) back in 2017. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351.md?page=98) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351.md?page=100)