# How can Donald Trump win at this point? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump, kamala-harris\ **Created:** [August 6, 2024, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351 "2024-08-06T21:13:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 1338
**Author:** ![Gozu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gozu/32/6615_2.png) [@Gozu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351/1338 "2024-08-26T19:50:12Z")
> [@Trump will not debate Biden on June 27, 2024, or thereafter either](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/1): > > > [@Aeschines](#): > > > > He is crumbling at a very rapid pace. > > This is probably the 100th time you’ve posted this or something much like it over the past 3 or so months, in various threads. At what point does it strike you that it’s wishful thinking? > > Cites: > > > [@Trump will not debate Biden on June 27, 2024, or thereafter either](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/1): > > > > Trump is in severe cognitive decline > > > [@Trump won't be the Republican party nominee in 2024](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/276): > > > > Trump is _crumbling before our eyes._ And his deterioration seems to accelerate by the day. > > > [@Trump won't be the Republican party nominee in 2024](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-wont-be-the-republican-party-nominee-in-2024/996834/290): > > > > while Trump has always been outrageous and said stupid things, the IQ (idiocy quotient) and SC (senility quotient) of his ramblings have been rising rapidly. > > > [@Trump will not debate Biden on June 27, 2024, or thereafter either](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/1): > > > > Trump is in severe cognitive decline > > > [@Trump will not debate Biden on June 27, 2024, or thereafter either](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/10): > > > > Trump is a beat-up piece of shit at this point > > > [@Trump will not debate Biden on June 27, 2024, or thereafter either](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-will-not-debate-biden-on-june-27-2024-or-thereafter-either/1002493/78): > > > > Trump is coming apart. It’s not just that he will be “beaten” in a debate with Biden; his dementia will be on full display, since he will not be able to control the situation. > > I could go on quoting; there are many, many others. And while it’s fun to post clips of Trump spouting nonsense and claiming that he is senile, the reality is that there will be no spectacular implosion and no senile meltdown that tanks the race for Trump. It didn’t happen in June when you said it would, it didn’t happen in July when you said it would, it didn’t happen in August when you said it would. It’s pure wishful thinking empowered by breathless YouTubers and other terminally online people desperate for clicks. (It’s _understandable_ wishful thinking of course - nobody would be happier with a Trump implosion than me - but it’s not real). > > It’s going to be a fucking nailbiter, just like in 2020. Dems have to pull out all the stops to counter this cult. I think we would all do well to remember these 2020 numbers: > Arizona: 10,457 > Wisconsin: 20,682 > Georgia: 11,779 > > That’s how Trump wins: he flips 5500 votes in AZ, 10,500 votes in WI, and 6,000 votes in GA from last time. That’s it. There’s no magical savior coming, there’s not going to be an electoral wipeout or meltdown, it’s going to be a vote by vote grind. Time to “Do Something” as a wise person recently said. Amen and thank you! I tire of such self-indulgent clickbait verbiage. You can say Trump is crumbling when he has lost two or more of his limbs or has cratered by 30 points in the polls. Not before. Until then, he is a most formidable opponent and the greatest threat to the republic there has ever been. Somehow, thanks to the Electoral College, he was winning against an honest civil servant, despite his 34 felony convictions, despite aiding and abetting Jan 6, despite so very fucking many people in his own party, including his secretary of state, calling him a “fucking moron”, a traitor, a coward, a bully, someone who wipes his ass with the constitution and the flag. Despite his own Vice President not voting for him because he tried to get him hanged, despite not a single former Republican president endorsing him (!!!), despite 2 impeachments and the list goes on and on and on and on and on with red flag factory after red flag factory… Despite all that, it’s a nail-biter because \< insert horrible truth about the world here \> The only vibes lucid people should feel are the vibes of terror running down their spines as somehow Trump effectively has a 50% chance to win. On that not I’m off to donate some money so I can live with myself if Trump wins. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-donald-trump-win-at-this-point/1005351)._