# How can I get rid of IOS 7? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [September 19, 2013, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-i-get-rid-of-ios-7/669268 "2013-09-19T22:05:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-i-get-rid-of-ios-7/669268/41 "2013-09-20T19:15:37Z")
> [@Duckster](#): > > If you pay your monthly phone bill with a credit card issued by a particular bank, the phone is automatically covered for loss (theft, accident?) to the tune of around $600. It makes it easier to get a replacement phone, presumably without iOS7. I thought that only applied to things you _purchased_ with the card. ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-i-get-rid-of-ios-7/669268/42 "2013-09-20T20:13:50Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > [my bolding] One of these words doesn’t mean what you think it means. Here are some synonyms for opaque from [thesaurus.com](http://thesaurus.com) blurred, cloudy, frosty, filmy, foggy, smoky ---
**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-i-get-rid-of-ios-7/669268/43 "2013-09-20T20:26:05Z")
I’ve had iOS7 for about 12 hours now. The initial shock has worn off. I’ve figured out the few things that have changed and now I’m back to being a happy, satisfied Apple diehard. ETA: iTunes Radio is da bomb. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-i-get-rid-of-ios-7/669268/44 "2013-09-20T20:28:18Z")
> [@zbuzz](#): > > Here are some synonyms for opaque from [thesaurus.com](http://thesaurus.com) > > blurred, cloudy, frosty, filmy, foggy, smoky All of those are closer synonyms to “translucent” than “opaque,” IMHO. I still remember learning “transparent, transluscent, opaque” in grammar school. Transparent was like a window: letting all light through. Translucent was like frosted glass or a sheet of wax paper: letting some light through. “Opaque” was a solid piece of cardboard paper, letting no light through. ---
**Author:** ![barbitu8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/839c29/32.png) [@barbitu8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/barbitu8)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-i-get-rid-of-ios-7/669268/45 "2013-09-20T21:45:41Z")
I like the IOS7, and particularly the new camera, with the grid and easy switching between video, photo, and panorama. I don’t care for the new layout of recent apps, lying across the middle. I liked them better at the bottom (after pressing Home twice). ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-i-get-rid-of-ios-7/669268/46 "2013-09-20T21:48:22Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > All of those are closer synonyms to “translucent” than “opaque,” IMHO. I still remember learning “transparent, transluscent, opaque” in grammar school. Transparent was like a window: letting all light through. Translucent was like frosted glass or a sheet of wax paper: letting some light through. “Opaque” was a solid piece of cardboard paper, letting no light through. Now that you mention it, I remember being taught that, too. After checking out their definitions and synonyms though, I guess this is one of those times we realize English is a pretty complex and-- wait for it-- opaque language. 🙂 But since this is an iOS 7 thread, let’s check out the official iOS 7 definition of opaque: “not able to be seen through; not transparent: the windows were opaque with steam.” To me, “windows opaque with steam” sounds like an apt description of Notification and Control Center. ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-i-get-rid-of-ios-7/669268/47 "2013-09-20T22:19:40Z")
> [@barbitu8](#): > > I like the IOS7, and particularly the new camera, with the grid and easy switching between video, photo, and panorama. I don’t care for the new layout of recent apps, lying across the middle. I liked them better at the bottom (after pressing Home twice). The icons of recent apps are still at the bottom for me on an iOS 7 iPhone. Are they really not there for you? Their spacing and scrolling fluidity is a little different from iOS 6, though. ---
**Author:** ![MrSquishy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MrSquishy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrSquishy)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2013, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-i-get-rid-of-ios-7/669268/48 "2013-09-20T22:40:02Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Oh, sorry. I should have mentioned it, because it’s not exactly obvious, but I had read about the feature being introduced in the new OS. Just go to your messages and swipe to the left. Cool! Thanks. That definitely would have taken me a while to stumble across. ---
**Author:** ![Strainger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/strainger/32/244_2.png) [@Strainger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strainger)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2013, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-i-get-rid-of-ios-7/669268/49 "2013-09-21T00:03:19Z")
The iOS7 graphics are uglier than a hat full of assholes, just like Windows 8. I realize functionality is more important than aesthetics, but what is the reason behind this trend? Do the simpler graphics result in a higher speed, or do the designers think that it’s more visually appealing? Because if the latter, it sure as shit isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2013, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-i-get-rid-of-ios-7/669268/50 "2013-09-21T00:14:10Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I thought that only applied to things you _purchased_ with the card. > [@](#): > > Pay your monthly cellular telephone bill with your \*\*\*\*\* \*\*\*\*\* Credit Card and you’ll get up to $600 protection (subject to a $25 deductible) against covered damage or theft at no cost. > > Protection is subject to a $25 deductible and maximum benefit limit of $600 per occurrence. Protection covers cellular telephones billed to your \*\*\*\*\* \*\*\*\*\* Credit Card, subject to a maximum of two claims, per twelve-month period, per \*\*\*\*\* \*\*\*\*\* Credit Card account number. Protection covers the primary line and up to the first three additional lines listed on your provider’s monthly statement. Cellular telephones that are stolen or damaged are protected. This benefit does not cover cellular telephones that are lost. Direct from their web site. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2013, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-i-get-rid-of-ios-7/669268/51 "2013-09-21T00:19:19Z")
> [@zbuzz](#): > > Now that you mention it, I remember being taught that, too. After checking out their definitions and synonyms though, I guess this is one of those times we realize English is a pretty complex and-- wait for it-- opaque language. 🙂 > > But since this is an iOS 7 thread, let’s check out the official iOS 7 definition of opaque: > > “not able to be seen through; not transparent: the windows were opaque with steam.” > > To me, “windows opaque with steam” sounds like an apt description of Notification and Control Center. Windows opaque with steam cannot be seen through at all in this context. What you mean is translucent. Opaque can only mean not opaque if you are comparing translucent things. Eg, “that frosted window is more opaque than that frosted window.” ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2013, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-i-get-rid-of-ios-7/669268/52 "2013-09-21T00:22:40Z")
> [@Strainger](#): > > The iOS7 graphics are uglier than a hat full of assholes, just like Windows 8. I realize functionality is more important than aesthetics, but what is the reason behind this trend? Do the simpler graphics result in a higher speed, or do the designers think that it’s more visually appealing? Because if the latter, it sure as shit isn’t. I have no idea why this “flat design” trend is happening, but I freaking _love_ it. I hatehatehate all the 3D nonsense like beveled edges and shadows and crap like that. iOS 7 still kind of irritates me with its unnecessary transitions and magnification effects, but anything to simplify the design and make it more minimalist is fine by me. In other words, different strokes and all that… ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2013, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-i-get-rid-of-ios-7/669268/53 "2013-09-21T00:57:21Z")
> [@zbuzz](#): > > The icons of recent apps are still at the bottom for me on an iOS 7 iPhone. Are they really not there for you? Their spacing and scrolling fluidity is a little different from iOS 6, though. On an iPad, when you do the 4-finger-swipe-up gesture, which is the same as a double-click on home, you get thumbnails of the screens of the running apps, along with the app icon underneath. In addition, one of these is for the home screen. This initially flustered me when I hit Newsstand by mistake and could not get it to go away, because it became the home screen and did not respond to the close gesture (5-finger-squeeze). To exit Newsstand, one must click the home button, which some of us have almost totally gotten out of the habit of using. Obviously, the smaller iPhone screen will not be the same. > [@Strainger](#): > > The iOS7 graphics are uglier than a hat full of assholes, just like Windows 8. I realize functionality is more important than aesthetics, but what is the reason behind this trend? Do the simpler graphics result in a higher speed, or do the designers think that it’s more visually appealing? Because if the latter, it sure as shit isn’t. There was a fancy-ass word getting thrown about, “skeuomorphism”, which describes UI elements mimicking physical objects. Like the way the calendar app had a leather spine and bits of torn paper along the perf. It was ever so pretty, but Apple came to the conclusion that skeuomorphic design was distracting users with fancy-ass widgetry when the content was more important. Perhaps they went a bit too far in some cases (some text is not obviously an active button-like element) but the underlying point is valid. An object should present only enough visual clues to be readily distinguishable. It was not at all about graphic horsepower, the net result is basically the same as far as that goes, it was about making things look more computerlike, less lifelike. Personally, I think the way they did the folders is a bit of an improvement, but some of the other things should be re-thought. ---
**Author:** ![SanDiegoTim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85e7bf/32.png) [@SanDiegoTim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanDiegoTim)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2013, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-i-get-rid-of-ios-7/669268/54 "2013-09-21T20:15:14Z")
I will eventually get used to it, but why the hell would Apple make the screens/icons/graphics harder to read? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-i-get-rid-of-ios-7/669268/55 "2013-09-22T14:57:57Z")
> [@Colophon](#): > > What type of email do you have? If it’s a web-based one eg Gmail, you should be able to do a “mark all as read” via the web interface. I had this problem with a yahoo account. From the iOS 7 mail app, you can mark all as read Edit at the top right of the inbox column, mark all in the lower left of the inbox column, select mark as read. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-i-get-rid-of-ios-7/669268/56 "2013-09-22T15:18:07Z")
> [@Colophon](#): > > What type of email do you have? If it’s a web-based one eg Gmail, you should be able to do a “mark all as read” via the web interface. Missed this. They’re both POP3 accounts on the mail server from two different host providers. There does not appear to be a way to actually select every single message and mark as read. Only one page at a time. Realize that I have at least 50,000+ messages stores on my servers. Anyhow, I did at least try marking a couple pages as “read”, but it did nothing to the count showing up on my iPhone, even when rechecking the mail, and after sending myself a message (just to make sure it does something to get data off the server.) So, before deleting server messages, I had 39,000 unread. Then after deleting a couple pages, 39,000 unread. Then I sent myself a message. 39,001 unread. Now, back to 2.15 billion unread. At any rate, I don’t see why I would have to go back and mark them unread on my server anyway, as everything had been working perfectly fine since my first generation iPhone. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-i-get-rid-of-ios-7/669268/57 "2013-09-22T15:23:27Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > Edit at the top right of the inbox column, mark all in the lower left of the inbox column, select mark as read. Yeah, that’s the solution I tried. I have one account that has the bulk of the 2.14 billion or 39K unread messages, and when I edit and mark all as read, it clears it for a moment–until the iPhone checks back with the account and then it goes back to one of those two values. For the other account, there’s 839 unread messages, and there’s no way to clear them. iPhone Mail doesn’t even give me the “Mark All as Read” option, just “Mark All as Unread,” so evidently, it thinks all the messages are read. So I tried marking all as read and then all as unread…no dice. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-i-get-rid-of-ios-7/669268/58 "2013-09-23T15:28:57Z")
Have you tried deleting the account from your iPhone, and reinstalling it? ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-i-get-rid-of-ios-7/669268/59 "2013-09-23T15:34:41Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Have you tried deleting the account from your iPhone, and reinstalling it? That’s an idea. The unread thing doesn’t actually bother me, I just find it amusing. I’ll see if reinstalling the account works later. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-i-get-rid-of-ios-7/669268/60 "2013-09-23T17:03:42Z")
> [@Duckster](#): > > Direct from their web site. Huh. Neato. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-i-get-rid-of-ios-7/669268.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-i-get-rid-of-ios-7/669268.md?page=4)