# How can people be so dumb and KNOWING they are dumb.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2014, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-people-be-so-dumb-and-knowing-they-are-dumb/706600 "2014-12-07T21:11:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Knowledgable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/67e7ee/32.png) [@Knowledgable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowledgable)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-people-be-so-dumb-and-knowing-they-are-dumb/706600/1 "2014-12-07T21:11:40Z")

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OK now this is pretty pathetic because we as a kind are pretty retarded but saying Israel should go pre-1967 borders is just making me lmao and rage.

if arabs wanna start fights (and yes 1967 was “initiated” by israel but closing the straits of tirans is considered a war act so they had it coming) and then when they get their asses kicked they will get butthurt and will say they have been treated unfairly even blaming the opposite side. then they are really just war-mongering monkeys/assholes.

^  
is true.

if you want israel to go back to even 1967 lines u would still be lucky, because they again kicked some ass and this time SEVERELY in 1973. and guess what they did with all the freshly acquired land, they returned them to ARABS! for peace (this is ironic because arabs who are in charge just like any other extremist don’t like peace, look at what they are doing in syria/iraq now) I’m not saying arabs are terroristas no ofc they aren’t but their kings and highnesses are and their despotic regime is sickening. even turkey ☹

now since it is pretty clear israel’s only motivation stopping it from conquering all of west bank and just shut them off so they can have jerusalem without stupid propaganda against them claiming EAST JERUSALEM SHALL LIBERATEEE! is international critisizm. since they have pretty much of that, they can just invade too since no country will ever except israel no matter what is accomplishes.

UN is stupid anyways, it’s dysfunctional and just full of despotic tyrants joining human right committees lol

Just give Jerusalem to Israelis and let them enjoy what they deserve. then they’l stop any “illegal settlement plans” since they will build in their boundaries and palestinians can be more secure. and get better living conditions as well as public education, rebuilding materials after Hamas is removed or renounces violence and recognizes israel’s right to exist or it continues to get rekt every time it fires rockets to israel.

then everyone will be happy, except expansionist jihadis but the hell with them anyways.

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**Author:** ![kk\_fusion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kk_fusion/32/15276_2.png) [@kk\_fusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kk_fusion)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-people-be-so-dumb-and-knowing-they-are-dumb/706600/2 "2014-12-07T21:15:43Z")

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Hell yeah, everyone’s problems solved in just half a screen.

Let me get another beer and I’ll join in.

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**Author:** ![Knowledgable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/67e7ee/32.png) [@Knowledgable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowledgable)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-people-be-so-dumb-and-knowing-they-are-dumb/706600/3 "2014-12-07T21:31:41Z")

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oh please, if no one was arrogant all word problems could be solved in one page. lets say indian and pakistani governments aren’t arrogant stay make a joint force to control the area of kashmir and curry or somewhere and they don’t scream NOOO PLS KASHMIR IS MINE.

yes half a f---- page. that’s how i like it. so it’s easier to read

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**Author:** ![Knowledgable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/67e7ee/32.png) [@Knowledgable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowledgable)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-people-be-so-dumb-and-knowing-they-are-dumb/706600/4 "2014-12-07T21:32:42Z")

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oh please, if no one was arrogant all world problems could be solved in one page. lets say indian and pakistani governments weren’t arrogant they’d make a joint force to control the area of kashmir and curry or somewhere and they don’t scream NOOO PLS KASHMIR IS MINE.

yes half a f---- page. that’s how i like it. so it’s easier to read

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-people-be-so-dumb-and-knowing-they-are-dumb/706600/5 "2014-12-07T21:34:57Z")

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You can say that again! (And it’ll be as stupid as the first time.)

What I’d like to know is, how can people be so heartless?

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-people-be-so-dumb-and-knowing-they-are-dumb/706600/6 "2014-12-07T21:42:06Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> What I’d like to know is, how can people be so heartless?

And especially people who care about strangers, who care about evil and social injustice. Do they only care about the bleeding crowd?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-people-be-so-dumb-and-knowing-they-are-dumb/706600/7 "2014-12-07T21:45:54Z")

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> [@Knowledgable](#):
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> oh please, if no one was arrogant all word problems could be solved in one page. lets say indian and pakistani governments aren’t arrogant stay make a joint force to control the area of kashmir and curry or somewhere and they don’t scream NOOO PLS KASHMIR IS MINE.
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> yes half a f---- page. that’s how i like it. so it’s easier to read

It’s an honor to finally meet the person who both invented and self-tested the “_ **KICK ME!** _” sign.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-people-be-so-dumb-and-knowing-they-are-dumb/706600/8 "2014-12-07T21:47:06Z")

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Knowled gable?  
Know led gable?  
Know ledg able?

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-people-be-so-dumb-and-knowing-they-are-dumb/706600/9 "2014-12-07T21:49:44Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Know led gable?

I _love_ Led Gable! “Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a whole lotta love!”

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-people-be-so-dumb-and-knowing-they-are-dumb/706600/10 "2014-12-07T22:07:59Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> And especially people who care about strangers, who care about evil and social injustice. Do they only care about the bleeding crowd?

I knew someone around here was at at least as old as me!

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-people-be-so-dumb-and-knowing-they-are-dumb/706600/11 "2014-12-07T22:30:17Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I knew someone around here was at at least as old as me!

Gliddy glup gloopy, nibby nabby noopy, la la la lo lo, pal.😉

I think the OP should change his username to **Dsylecix**.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-people-be-so-dumb-and-knowing-they-are-dumb/706600/12 "2014-12-07T22:31:08Z")

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> [@](#):
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> How can people be so dumb and KNOWING they are dumb.

Sometimes they don’t knowing.

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**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-people-be-so-dumb-and-knowing-they-are-dumb/706600/13 "2014-12-07T22:31:32Z")

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How about pre-1948 borders?

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-people-be-so-dumb-and-knowing-they-are-dumb/706600/14 "2014-12-07T22:35:17Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I knew someone around here was at at least as old as me!

How about a needy friend? We all need a friend!

Jeremiah was a bull frog, was a good friend of mine.  
Incomprehensible alcoholic, generous though, with a sommelier’s palate.

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-people-be-so-dumb-and-knowing-they-are-dumb/706600/15 "2014-12-07T22:45:09Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Gliddy glup gloopy, nibby nabby noopy, la la la lo lo, pal.😉

Dude, it’s like the earth saying hello!

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**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-people-be-so-dumb-and-knowing-they-are-dumb/706600/16 "2014-12-07T22:55:40Z")

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This thread promised dumb, and it delivered.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-people-be-so-dumb-and-knowing-they-are-dumb/706600/17 "2014-12-07T22:59:05Z")

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Give a hoot, don’t litter.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-people-be-so-dumb-and-knowing-they-are-dumb/706600/18 "2014-12-07T23:00:31Z")

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So wearying. Thread after thread after thread, and we Dopers are no closer to solving the Israel/Palestine conflict. I’m beginning to think our differences on this board run too deep to ever be reconciled. A war of opinion that will never end.

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**Author:** ![Knowledgable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/67e7ee/32.png) [@Knowledgable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowledgable)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-people-be-so-dumb-and-knowing-they-are-dumb/706600/19 "2014-12-07T23:54:09Z")

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> [@njtt](#):
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> How about pre-1948 borders?

oh please ur making me laugh now :')

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-people-be-so-dumb-and-knowing-they-are-dumb/706600/20 "2014-12-08T00:04:18Z")

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The irony is strong in this one.

^  
is true.

“Why don’t you make like a tree and get out of here.” [/Biff from Back to the Future].

> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> So wearying. Thread after thread after thread, and we Dopers are no closer to solving the Israel/Palestine conflict. I’m beginning to think our differences on this board run too deep to ever be reconciled.

I heard there was a new thread coming out in early 2015 that will solve this issue once and for all. Just hold tight until then.

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