How can we counter Trump putting ICE agents at the polls?

Sure there is.

In 1997, a judge reversed the results of the Miami mayoral race by throwing out all the absentee ballots.

There also are examples where new elections are ordered:

This is an example where all the ballots from certain precincts were almost thrown out:

Here’s one where the absentee ballots were thrown out in a 1994 Philadelphia race:

Vote-Fraud Ruling Shifts Pennsylvania Senate

The examples I am seeing are of all the absentee ballots being thrown out, not all the votes in a polling place. But this could be just as bad for Democrats, since, if given a choice, Democrats disproportionately vote by mail.

All my stories may be ones where the legitimate winner eventually took office. That because I’m picking from U.S. history, and the U.S. had long been a representative democracy.

The cases you cite had irrefutable evidence that the outcome of the election was changed by large-scale fraud.

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say Democrats aren’t going to rig the election, and judges are not going to accept “trust me bro” from Republican lawyers as an argument for invalidating results.

I’ve lost count of how many bad things have happened in this country in the last year that I was sure could never happen here.

Trump isn’t allowed to tear down a huge chunk of the White House on his own, but it’s gone.

He’s not allowed to put his name on the Kennedy Center, but it’s there.

He’s not allowed to ignore due process, but he has.

He’s not allowed to deport legal citizens but he has.

And I sure as hell never thought I would ever see a US President show an image depicting an African-American President as an ape, but here we are.

It Can’t Happen Here!

“A, B, and C happened, therefore Σ will happen, even though it didn’t happen before under identical circumstances” is not a compelling argument.

Trump has already tried to have election results thrown out on baseless allegations of fraud. Every single judge who heard those cases - INCLUDING the ones he appointed himself - ruled against him.

There is no reason to believe he would be any more successful this time.

Furthermore, you’re confusing “things the president is not supposed to do” with “things that are not within the president’s ability to do”. Changing the results of an election isn’t putting your name on a building, it’s writing your name on the Moon in giant letters that everyone can read in the night sky.

Since you keep on harping on about “don’t worry, the President is not supposed to do that”.

Cite for me saying “don’t worry”?

“Thus always to tyrants”

John WIlkes Booth yelled that when he shot President Lincoln.

Are you sure you want to go with that?

Hey, I’m a Southern too, but my Grandmother, from Illinois, explained to me that it made things a lot worse for the Southern USA.

It’s the Virginia State motto.

He can’t deploy them in the USA, but he can nationalize them and send them to protect the border in Korea.

Eisenhower sent US troops to integrate Central High. Governor Faubus called out the National Guard to keep US troops out. Eisenhower nationalized them.

Ah.

That didn’t work out for us in 1863.

“Nobody fathomed that A, B, C, D and E would ever happen but they DID happen. Therefore, saying F, G, H, I, J, and K will never happen isn’t all that comforting” is the actual argument here.

Which has no bearing on whether something completely different will happen.

Of course it does. My examples all fall under the umbrella of things that were outside of the President’s authority, yet he didn’t care at all and did them anyway. Imagining that he won’t be able to do all of those other things because they aren’t under his authority is wishful thinking, at best.

OK, so Trump just needs to get Democratic governors to illegally deploy the National Guard to prevent federal forces operating under the Posse Comitatus Act from enforcing a unanimous Supreme Court decision in his favor.

I guess it’s inevitable, then.

Yes, but now Virginia is the good guys.

We’re not talking about authority here. We’re talking about ability.

Yes, and his abilities seem to be far surpassing his authority. These semantic games are tiring, but I guess they help to avoid actually addressing the points made.

Please. Trump is weaker now than he’s been at any point in the last 11 years. His approval rating is barely above a third. He’s underwater on every single policy issue. The Supreme Court’s deference to him is breaking. Republicans are openly criticizing him, predicting electoral bloodbath, and quitting Congress en masse. He’s increasingly unaware of what’s going on around him and what he’s doing. His body and mind are failing him. He is not the Trump of 2015 or 2020. He’s not even the Trump of 2024. He’s not in ANY position to make an autocrat of himself.

This thread has gone so far afield of its stated topic that I’m not even sure what point you’re trying to make. What is it you think Trump is going to do, exactly? Convince the Supreme Court to nullify electoral results? Have the Post Office shred every envelope that says “official election mail”? Send hundreds of thousands of armed goons to tens of thousands of voting precincts while judges threaten everyone in the chain of command with jail time? Sic the Army on the general population? Nuke Congress?

Because I don’t see a scenario where anything Trump can try to do is going to prevent the blue wave that’s coming.

Um, every single post you’ve made in this thread?

You did notice that he’s currently President, right? That makes him very strong indeed.

As for his abilities, he has the ability to do all of the things that you keep on reminding us that he doesn’t have the authority to do.