# How can we take this latest Trump nastiness \["Quiet, Piggy" remark, and responses to said remark\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 18, 2025, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971 "2025-11-18T23:50:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2025, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/181 "2025-11-28T22:37:54Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > considering that only the organizations which have agreed to the loyalty pledge are even allowed in. I thought that was only at the Pentagon. Why else would he be constantly complaining about “fake news” and asking people where they’re from? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2025, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/182 "2025-11-28T22:48:37Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Really, I wish they’d all **quit** covering him at all. Let him squirm talking to the clouds. Shaking his little teeny fist at nobody. Think of how many people would be able to go off, or at least reduce, their mental-health medications! ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2025, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/183 "2025-11-28T22:58:09Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > I thought that was only at the Pentagon. Oh, you’re correct. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/184 "2025-11-29T02:39:05Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/C2C0pTh7x9o/maxresdefault.jpg "WATCH: 'Are you stupid?' Trump rebuffs reporter's question on Afghan resettlement vetting") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2C0pTh7x9o) ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/185 "2025-11-29T04:01:59Z")
I’m fairly certain I’d lose my cool if I was present when he did that. If we’re in the plane, I might even get in his face; I’d gladly take the time in prison for bumping the president - _fuck the guy_; I’d be a famous martyr for whatever bullshit charges they’d stick on me. But even at a press conference, it’d be hard to hold back the next time he called somebody stupid or unattractive. “What the fuck is wrong with you? You’ve never been successful at anything, and now you’re subjecting the entire country to your failing ideas. All you know how to do is point fingers. But you are a walking disaster, and you are ruining this country. Your policies are horrible, your ethics are missing, your administration is corrupt, and you are an overweight geriatric geezer who is destined to be remembered as the worst president of all time, like nobody’s ever seen. Learn some manners, asshole.” I’m sure he’d yell “Get him out of here”, and I’d be escorted out, never to return. But I’d do it. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/186 "2025-11-29T04:20:17Z")
I like to believe I could speak up in a situation like that. I’ve been known to back folks up when they swam upstream from a bully. I believe if someone just screamed “shut your rude pie hole!” at a presser, there would be applause and Trump would stand and stare, like he did when the guy fell out cold. With a stupid vacated look on his face. Bullies always back down. But he’s old and fat, with swollen ankles and you(most anyone) could out run him. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/187 "2025-11-29T05:28:43Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > And he has now called Tim Walz “seriously retarded” in a tweet. Every accusation… ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/188 "2025-11-29T14:59:30Z")
Expect these outbursts in growing frequency, ever more apoplectic and apocalyptic ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/189 "2025-11-29T15:59:29Z")
Is this something you’ve seen before? Just wondering if this is a legitimate mental symptom he’s displaying? ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/190 "2025-11-29T16:13:49Z")
He’s carrying more weight than his joints can handle as they age, and as the cartilage deteriorates there’s pain. The blood vessels that carry oxygen to his brain are collecting plaque. His response is anger, which paleo-masculinists like himself equate with determination and vigor. What makes him dangerous is that he’s assumed the role of the beating heart of the USA. As he falls, so must the USA. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/191 "2025-11-29T17:33:51Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > Expect these outbursts in growing frequency, ever more apoplectic and apocalyptic I actually hope we do. I hope we get to a point where Trump starts responding to queries with “Fuck you. Next question.” I want the Republicans to have to justify it. And I want the decent people of America (presuming the silent majority still exists) to be thoroughly disgusted by it. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/192 "2025-11-29T17:39:15Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > But even at a press conference, it’d be hard to hold back the next time he called somebody stupid or unattractive. > > “What the fuck is wrong with you?” There’s a Wonkette columnist who posts this at the end of nearly all his columns – asking that some journalist stand up and ask this. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/193 "2025-11-29T17:50:53Z")
A great reply would have been “Better a pig than a fascist”, which is a somewhat famous quote from “Porco Rosso”: > **[Porco Rosso](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porco_Rosso)** > > Porco Rosso (Japanese: 紅の豚, Hepburn: Kurenai no Buta; lit. 'Crimson Pig') is a 1992 Japanese animated adventure fantasy film written and directed by Hayao Miyazaki, based on his 1989 manga Hikōtei Jidai. The film stars the voices of Shūichirō Moriyama, Tokiko Kato, Akemi Okamura and Akio Otsuka. It was produced by Toshio Suzuki, animated by Studio Ghibli, and distributed by Toho. The score was composed by Joe Hisaishi. > The plot revolves around an Italian World War I ex-fighter ace, now living ... > [@](#): > > Porco Rosso and his famous line “Better a pig than a fascist” became a rallying symbol among some Spanish artist circles encouraging people to vote against conservative to far-right parties in Spain’s 2023 general elections ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/194 "2025-11-29T17:57:17Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > As he falls, so must the USA. [“After me, the deluge.”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apr%C3%A8s_moi,_le_d%C3%A9luge) > It is generally regarded as a [nihilistic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilistic) expression of indifference to whatever happens after one is gone.[[3]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apr%C3%A8s_moi,_le_d%C3%A9luge#cite_note-3)[[2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apr%C3%A8s_moi,_le_d%C3%A9luge#cite_note-Lexico-2)[_[clarification needed](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Please_clarify)_] Its meaning was translated in 1898 by [E. Cobham Brewer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Cobham_Brewer) in the forms “When I am dead the deluge may come for aught I care”, and “Ruin, if you like, when we are dead and gone”.[[4]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apr%C3%A8s_moi,_le_d%C3%A9luge#cite_note-Brewer-4) ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/195 "2025-11-29T19:33:39Z")
I love “Porco Rosso” I think I’ll remember that. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/196 "2025-11-29T21:38:38Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > “After me, the deluge.” In this case, “_after me, the nuclear annihilation_” is a sadly-real possibility. > [@Moriarty](#): > > I want the Republicans to have to justify it. This has to be front and center. As many have noticed, Donald is likely to get more belligerent, not less, as time goes by. Never “presidential,” he will continue to break norms in ways that many Americans find to be horrifying. Make his Republican apologists work. Make them defend the ugliness, publicly. Tie it to them with ropes of steel. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/197 "2025-11-29T21:52:24Z")
Jeff Tiedrich. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/198 "2025-11-29T22:06:08Z")
Yeah, I couldn’t remember how to spell it and was too lazy to google! ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/199 "2025-11-29T23:50:37Z")
It’s the sex pest calling the kettle fat (or something like that) ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2025, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/200 "2025-11-30T01:00:44Z")
I’m tryna like your post @Andy_L I’m not sure I can figure that out. Lemme read it 6 times…bbs [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971.md?page=11)