# How can we take this latest Trump nastiness \["Quiet, Piggy" remark, and responses to said remark\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 18, 2025, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971 "2025-11-18T23:50:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/141 "2025-11-21T05:11:01Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > I’ve updated the title to reflect what the original “nastiness” was referring too. It’s a fair cop – there are so many to choose from, at times several in a day. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/142 "2025-11-21T11:47:36Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > About that phrase. I’m afraid that much overused quote is about as effective as “Let’s go to the quarry and throw stuff down there!”. It doesn’t mean jack to Republicans, and I have never seen a groundswell of support from the Left whenever anyone said it. It took less than a minute to find online support for the accusations/confessions/Trump theory. [https://www.yahoo.com/news/every-accusation-confession-trump-telegraphs-031615912.html](https://www.yahoo.com/news/every-accusation-confession-trump-telegraphs-031615912.html) Of course it doesn’t mean jack to his cult members. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/143 "2025-11-21T21:21:15Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Get a Dem ventriloquist to yell it at the SOTU address 🙂 It would get a HUGE laugh on one side of the chamber, that’s for sure… ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/144 "2025-11-21T21:41:55Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Get a Dem ventriloquist to yell it at the SOTU address In a shrill Kermit the Frog voice. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/145 "2025-11-22T00:55:45Z")
Maybe the Quiet Piggy chant can be during the World Cup. Tees in over 30 languages. ---
**Author:** ![Mk\_VII](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Mk\_VII](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mk_VII)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/146 "2025-11-22T13:02:52Z")
People who are gonna support Trump have already priced in his behaviour into his offer. They’re not going to charge their minds over stuff like this. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/147 "2025-11-22T16:02:44Z")
Miss Piggy has something to say. She sure talks pretty. > ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/148 "2025-11-22T16:17:53Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > She sure talks pretty. My favorite line (among many): > A man who calls a woman “piggy” because he cannot withstand a factual question is not strong. He is not clever. He is not bold. > > He is a big, loud, pathetic problem. A problem the size of a collapsing casino. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/149 "2025-11-23T14:21:27Z")
Wow, that’s great. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/150 "2025-11-23T21:56:17Z")
Jim Henson’s Kermit would never have said “Quiet, Piggy” yet if they want the “classic” Miss Piggy voice, Frank Oz is still around. Yet clearly, this is trump quoting Bart Simpson, who is at least paraphrasing (can’t recall a direct quote) something from Golding’s “Lord of the Flies”. I reckon the “Democratic Congressmen should be executed” could be it’s own thread, but it’s an atrocity-of-the-day, apparently a few days old and he hasn’t written an EO to demand it yet. This President has a marvelous sense of humor. Dunno if that episode was on recently in DC or if he just watches the box sets, yet watching classic Simpsons proves he is the Greatest President, nay American, Ever. \< / troy McClure \> ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/151 "2025-11-24T10:23:27Z")
Miss Piggy has always been one of my favourite Muppets (though I have a teenage style crush on Janice). She does not take shit. > [@](#): > > Yet clearly, this is trump quoting Bart Simpson, who is at least paraphrasing (can’t recall a direct quote) something from Golding’s “Lord of the Flies”. Piggy was the voice of reason in that book. (Also… does Trump even understand sarcastic humour? His limited efforts seem to be just insulting his foes, school bully style. Sarcasm is clever, pointed at the defect in the targeted individual and cuttingly brutal.) ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/152 "2025-11-24T11:13:30Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > Also… does Trump even understand sarcastic humour? His limited efforts seem to be just insulting his foes, school bully style. Right wingers generally seem to only understand “humor” based on bigotry and cruelty. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats2)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/153 "2025-11-24T13:04:53Z")
Excellent article that said what needed to be said, but I’m afraid it wasn’t really convincing in using Miss Piggy’s voice. It didn’t sound like the character at all. So, not really successful as satire. ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/154 "2025-11-24T13:36:14Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > Yet clearly, this is trump quoting Bart Simpson, who is at least paraphrasing (can’t recall a direct quote) something from Golding’s “Lord of the Flies”. I misread this as “Lord of the Files” and chuckled. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/155 "2025-11-24T14:26:33Z")
“Lords of the Files” was in fact a rejected title for _Brazil_. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/156 "2025-11-24T18:01:53Z")
When I was a kid, listening to Simon and Garfunkel’s album _Bookends_, reading the lyrics on the back, I though the line in “Mrs. Robinson” went: _We’d like to know a little bit about you for our **flies** …_ I pictured some private detective’s filthy office with flies buzzing around. /hijack ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/157 "2025-11-26T12:04:06Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > You people are all wet. W.H. Press Secretary says Donnie was just being frank and open A frank and open response by the piggy person would have been “Please answer the question asshole”. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/158 "2025-11-26T13:26:18Z")
Is this not an insult that could be considered slander? Trump is guilty of far worse, but I would be delighted if he went down for rampant sexism. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/159 "2025-11-26T16:56:42Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > Is this not an insult that could be considered slander? I don’t think it’s actionable slander. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971/160 "2025-11-26T18:09:23Z")
“See Exhibit A, a medical report that shows my client is human, not a piggy as claimed by the defendant.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-take-this-latest-trump-nastiness-quiet-piggy-remark-and-responses-to-said-remark/1024971.md?page=9)