# How close do you live to Franklin? (USA Dopers primarily)

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**Created:** [August 17, 2006, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-do-you-live-to-franklin-usa-dopers-primarily/369089 "2006-08-17T14:23:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2006, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-do-you-live-to-franklin-usa-dopers-primarily/369089/81 "2006-08-18T19:04:58Z")

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> [@MLS](#):
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> Ahem. I do. I posted that almost exactly 24 hours ago.
> 
> If there’s a prize, I win. 😃

You say you live in Franklin Township and that may have to do until or unless somebody else can say they live in a town, city, village or other incorporated community.

Townships aren’t all that common in my area and I’m not even sure I could tell you what one is except it’s like a section of a county. Is it like a ward or a precinct?

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2006, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-do-you-live-to-franklin-usa-dopers-primarily/369089/82 "2006-08-18T19:37:09Z")

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Driving miles:

Franklin, NH 63  
Franklin, VT 129  
Franklin, MA 170  
N. Franklin, CT 194  
Franklin, NY 234  
Franklin, ME 290

Hmm. Perhaps I should plan a road trip.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2006, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-do-you-live-to-franklin-usa-dopers-primarily/369089/83 "2006-08-18T19:50:51Z")

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> [@gigi](#):
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> Driving miles:
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> Franklin, NH 63  
> Franklin, VT 129  
> Franklin, MA 170  
> N. Franklin, CT 194  
> Franklin, NY 234  
> Franklin, ME 290
> 
> Hmm. Perhaps I should plan a road trip.

Terrific idea! Just for laughs not too long ago, I used a mapping program to determine how long it would take (and the mileage involved) to drive into all six New England states. Using the borders between two (or three) where possible and starting in the bottom left of Maine, I was able to decide I could do all six in one afternoon, six hours more or less.

I imagine you’d be close to a whole day if not into the second if you were to do all the New England Franklins. The route would be cool to look at.

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**Author:** ![MLS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MLS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MLS)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2006, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-do-you-live-to-franklin-usa-dopers-primarily/369089/84 "2006-08-18T20:15:50Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> You say you live in Franklin Township and that may have to do until or unless somebody else can say they live in a town, city, village or other incorporated community.
> 
> Townships aren’t all that common in my area and I’m not even sure I could tell you what one is except it’s like a section of a county. Is it like a ward or a precinct?

It’s a municipality like a town, village or city might be. It’s not just a section of a county. We have a governing council, mayor, school board, police force, etc. of our own. If you look in the link I provided yesterday, you can see that it’s fairly large geographically. It’s part rural, part suburban, has a smallish urban area near New Brunswick, an industrial section and several large roads lined with strip malls.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2006, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-do-you-live-to-franklin-usa-dopers-primarily/369089/85 "2006-08-18T20:39:12Z")

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> [@MLS](#):
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> It’s a municipality like a town, village or city might be. It’s not just a section of a county. We have a governing council, mayor, school board, police force, etc. of our own. If you look in the link I provided yesterday, you can see that it’s fairly large geographically. It’s part rural, part suburban, has a smallish urban area near New Brunswick, an industrial section and several large roads lined with strip malls.

Okay. I’m still confused, though. Are there towns or other municipalities within the township?

How do you resolve the other townships in the state? By county, or what?

I’m pretty sure there are some small communities in Tennessee with the same names as larger towns in other counties, so that county helps resolve confusion here. Is it like that in Jersey?

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**Author:** ![MLS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MLS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MLS)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2006, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-do-you-live-to-franklin-usa-dopers-primarily/369089/86 "2006-08-18T20:53:16Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> Okay. I’m still confused, though. Are there towns or other municipalities within the township?
> 
> How do you resolve the other townships in the state? By county, or what?
> 
> I’m pretty sure there are some small communities in Tennessee with the same names as larger towns in other counties, so that county helps resolve confusion here. Is it like that in Jersey?

There is another Franklin Township in another county in New Jersey; if the issue arises, we are the one in Somerset Country.

\<Nitpick: Jersey itself I have little knowledge of, other than the fact that it’s one of the islands in the English Channel./\>

There are not other towns or municipalities within Franklin Township. It has one, and only one, governing body, the Franklin Township Council, and Mayor.

We do encompass more than one zip code, though, and there are commonly-recognized neighborhoods.

Think of it as being similar in structure to New York City. It has several boroughs, all of which are a part of New York City. The Borough of Manhattan in turn encompasses several zip codes and many neighborhoods, although all are part of New York, New York.

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2006, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-do-you-live-to-franklin-usa-dopers-primarily/369089/87 "2006-08-18T21:24:49Z")

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If I choose to drive, I am 333 km (206 mi) from Franklin, MI.

If I choose to fly my InvisibleHelicopter™, however, I am 236 km (147 mi) from Franklin, PA, which would otherwise have been a 403 km (250 mi) drive.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2006, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-do-you-live-to-franklin-usa-dopers-primarily/369089/88 "2006-08-18T21:27:31Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> Terrific idea! Just for laughs not too long ago, I used a mapping program to determine how long it would take (and the mileage involved) to drive into all six New England states. Using the borders between two (or three) where possible and starting in the bottom left of Maine, I was able to decide I could do all six in one afternoon, six hours more or less.

I’m always amused that the four-hour trip to NYC takes me through five states. Well, not all the way through all of them, but touching.

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**Author:** ![Jman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jman/32/4416_2.png) [@Jman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jman)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2006, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-do-you-live-to-franklin-usa-dopers-primarily/369089/89 "2006-08-18T22:53:46Z")

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> [@Giles](#):
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> I live in Franklin County. Does that count?

I too live in Franklin County…where abouts are you? (I’m in Gahanna)

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2006, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-do-you-live-to-franklin-usa-dopers-primarily/369089/90 "2006-08-18T23:02:22Z")

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> [@MLS](#):
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> \<Nitpick: Jersey itself I have little knowledge of, other than the fact that it’s one of the islands in the English Channel./\>

I guess I was taking liberties with the name of your state. Maybe I should have said Joisey?

Is it just New Jersey residents (and New Yorkers) who can refer to Jersey and know it’s not over in the English Channel they’re talking about? BTW, why isn’t Jersey part of France anyway?

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**Post date:** [August 18, 2006, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-do-you-live-to-franklin-usa-dopers-primarily/369089/91 "2006-08-18T23:14:54Z")

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It’s 283 miles as the crow flies to Franklin, CA which is just south of Sacramento.

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**Author:** ![MLS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MLS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MLS)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2006, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-do-you-live-to-franklin-usa-dopers-primarily/369089/92 "2006-08-18T23:22:38Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> I guess I was taking liberties with the name of your state. Maybe I should have said Joisey?
> 
> Is it just New Jersey residents (and New Yorkers) who can refer to Jersey and know it’s not over in the English Channel they’re talking about? BTW, why isn’t Jersey part of France anyway?

Actually, I have lived here all my life, and have never, ever heard anyone say “Joisey,” except gangsters from Brooklyn in old movies.

Seriously, I’d bet a distressingly small portion of the population of the country even knows that the Garden State was named after an island in the English Channel.

I guess the island of Jersey is not part of France for similar reasons to why Brittany is not part of Britain.

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2006, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-do-you-live-to-franklin-usa-dopers-primarily/369089/93 "2006-08-19T00:46:14Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> BTW, why isn’t Jersey part of France anyway?

Jersey was part of the Duchy of Normandy at the time of the invasion of Britain by William of Normandy (_aka_ William the Conqueror) in 1066. From that point on, Britain and the Channel Islands (including Jersey) were ruled by the same monarch.

When Phillip II of France took _mainland_ Normandy from Britain’s King John in 1204, the Channel Islands stayed under the aegis of the British crown (but self-governing as regards internal affairs).

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2006, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-do-you-live-to-franklin-usa-dopers-primarily/369089/94 "2006-08-19T02:28:01Z")

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According to Google maps, I’m 43.8 (driving) miles from Franklin, MA. I grew up 16.9 miles away. But Franklin, my dear, I don’t give a damn…

someone had to say it 😃

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2006, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-do-you-live-to-franklin-usa-dopers-primarily/369089/95 "2006-08-19T02:47:03Z")

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I’m 97.95 driving miles from Franklin, MN. Never even knew it was there.

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2006, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-do-you-live-to-franklin-usa-dopers-primarily/369089/96 "2006-08-19T03:20:42Z")

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There is no actual town of Franklin in Nevada. However, I live:

405 miles from Franklin Lake Wildlife Management Area in Nevada (Near Elko)  
554 miles from Franklin California (Near Sacramento)  
493 miles from Franklin Arizona (North of I-10 on the AZ-NM border)  
531 miles from Franklin Hill Utah (North of Brigham City)  
1039 miles from Franklin Oregon (West of Eugene)  
and  
530 miles from Franklin Idaho, which incidently is 74 miles from Franklin Hill Utah.

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2006, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-do-you-live-to-franklin-usa-dopers-primarily/369089/97 "2006-08-19T03:47:55Z")

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I’m 593 miles from Franklin, AZ. Is that a new record?

I think it’s from being somewaht removed from the East-West arteries around here.

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2006, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-do-you-live-to-franklin-usa-dopers-primarily/369089/98 "2006-08-19T03:58:36Z")

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When I lived in Coralville, IA I was 69 miles from Franklin, IA. I guess that doesn’t count.

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2006, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-do-you-live-to-franklin-usa-dopers-primarily/369089/99 "2006-08-19T12:47:08Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> After opening this can of worms, which I did mostly “for the fun of it,” I have begun to suspect that I have yet to locate anything definitive on just how many legitimate Franklins are in the USA. Not counting the additional confusion as it relates to counties and townships, the listing in Wikipedia, sorted and alphabatized, seems to be at odds with the Census Bureau link in the OP.
> 
> I have set myself the task of organizing the posted remarks into this structure and trying to account for any towns, cities, villages, etc., not already on this skeleton list. I’m not promising any quick conclusion to that effort, … \<snip\>

I have bailed out on that organization task. Too many variables. Too many places I can’t confirm. Too many confusing entries in Wikipedia.

If there’s a definitive list of Franklins in the USA, maybe the responses to this thread could be fit into it. But I can’t locate such a list. And some of the places cited in this thread only show up on the mapping tools with no corresponding support data that I could find.

Anybody interested in pursuing the task is welcome to it. As it is, this thread’s responses are all I really have to work with, and I just can’t make sense of it all.

Sorry if I have disappointed you with this “promise” that wasn’t really a promise.

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**Post date:** [August 19, 2006, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-do-you-live-to-franklin-usa-dopers-primarily/369089/100 "2006-08-19T13:00:39Z")

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> [@GingerOfTheNorth](#):
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> There’s an area of West Baltimore called Franklin (21223). It’s about 10-11 miles from where Bibliocat and I live.
> 
> No, we do not live together. Although, she came over for not-coffee yesterday.

It’s about 8 miles from where I work and 13 from where I live. I’d love to have you both over for not-coffee sometime.

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