# How close to Nazism is US , really ? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 12, 2015, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-to-nazism-is-us-really/734483 "2015-10-12T22:26:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-to-nazism-is-us-really/734483/61 "2015-10-14T03:42:06Z")
> [@Alkash](#): > > Please don’t. Check them yourselves and report back to us with your findings. Sorry, absent a compelling case on your part, I don’t see much point in bothering. > [@](#): > > I have no idea And that pretty much ends the discussion right there. But hey, I’ll keep going for a moment. > [@](#): > > For example, we know that US relationship with Israel is going through some very rough patches. Is this result of normal political disagreements or is this result of President Obama associating so closely with the likes of Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, etc? Just like you, apparently, I have no idea. But you raised the issue. Go ahead and present your evidence. You know, the evidence that for some reason you aren’t currently presenting. > [@](#): > > If a known KKK leader led a “Death to n…gers” march on the heels of a lynching and murder of a black man, then later was invited to the White House 73 times, then some very pointed questions should be asked, such as: > > “Mr. President, do you think associating closely with known racists has no impact on your policy?” > 'Mr. President, did this KKK leader ever express any remorse over leading a march with ‘Death to n…gers’ slogans"? Sorry, I have no interest in hypotheticals. If you’ve got some kind of actual event to debate, have at it. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-to-nazism-is-us-really/734483/62 "2015-10-14T03:43:16Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I’m okay with saying pockets of Europe and pockets of the U.S. are inclined to fascism. The land areas and population are comparable that normal variability almost requires it. This map is very telling IMO: [https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/files/2013/05/racism-map.jpg](https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/files/2013/05/racism-map.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-to-nazism-is-us-really/734483/63 "2015-10-14T11:28:15Z")
> [@Alkash](#): > > “May have been”–you don’t think leading a march with slogans such as “Death to the Jews” qualifies one as an anti-Semite? I don’t believe you are accurately characterizing these events, so I’m unable to confirm he did this, or the circumstances around it. > [@](#): > > Do you have any evidence that Al Sharpton ever expressed regret over leading a march with slogans such as “Death to the Jews”? He’s stated he regrets some of the things surrounding that event. > [@](#): > > Let’s say since then Al Sharpton made a number of anti-Semitic remarks. I have no reason to believe that this is true. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-to-nazism-is-us-really/734483/64 "2015-10-14T11:50:29Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > He’s stated he regrets some of the things surrounding that event. I am not an expert on the events in question, but from reading this New York Times article — [http://www.nytimes.com/1991/08/25/nyregion/tension-in-brooklyn-blacks-march-by-hasidim-through-a-corridor-of-blue.html?pagewanted=all](http://www.nytimes.com/1991/08/25/nyregion/tension-in-brooklyn-blacks-march-by-hasidim-through-a-corridor-of-blue.html?pagewanted=all) — it seems that the “Death” slogan march and the march that Sharpton was involved in were two different events. Indeed, from that article, it seems like Sharpton effectively cut off some marchers’ intent to harass Jewish people. > [@](#): > > At the school, several of the protesters were heard grumbling, “Sharpton sold us out.” > > “We were supposed to be marching up Kingston so we could confront the Jews,” one said. “I don’t understand why we ended up back at the school.” ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-to-nazism-is-us-really/734483/65 "2015-10-14T12:40:25Z")
Vlad Putin would get invited to the White House more, if he didn’t insist on not wearing a shirt and peeing in the shrubbery. ---
**Author:** ![solosam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@solosam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solosam)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-to-nazism-is-us-really/734483/66 "2015-10-14T18:35:07Z")
> [@Alkash](#): > > We went through this already as well–this is the moral equivalent of “I’m not racist! Some of best friends are black!” defense. > Herman Goering associated closely with some Jews. He also associated closely with Hitler. No, YOU went through this but the rest of us refuse to engage on such a preposterous argument. You have effectively made your argument non falsifiable because no amount of contradictory evidence will satisfy you. Or rather, all contradictory evidence is automatically invalid. You only care about this one person, this one incident, and this vast web of assumptions you have crafted. Discarding contradictory evidence is the first sign of a conspiracy theorist at work. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-close-to-nazism-is-us-really/734483.md?page=3)