# How clued up is the average doper on Internet Memes?

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 20, 2008, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-clued-up-is-the-average-doper-on-internet-memes/464490 "2008-09-20T23:05:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2008, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-clued-up-is-the-average-doper-on-internet-memes/464490/1 "2008-09-20T23:05:26Z")

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For example… Does Christian Bale’s Batman saying to Heath Leger’s Joker “I accidentally a cola-bottle”

And then Joker replying “Accidentally what?”

And then Batman replying “A cola-bottle”

… mean anything to you?

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**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2008, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-clued-up-is-the-average-doper-on-internet-memes/464490/2 "2008-09-20T23:14:21Z")

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Meme. I hate that word. I mentally pronounce it “mee-mee” when I see it. This message board is the only place I’ve ever seen it used.

Now I need to go look it up again because I can never remember what it means.

Sorry; didn’t mean to thread-fart.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2008, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-clued-up-is-the-average-doper-on-internet-memes/464490/3 "2008-09-20T23:17:25Z")

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Well according to Richard Dawkins a Meme is the electronic (Internet) version of a Gene.

Something that, if it has more of an ability to survive than most of it’s rivals, will become common in the pool.

(I have no idea what RD’s actual words were. It’s a long time since I read his words on the subject.

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**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2008, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-clued-up-is-the-average-doper-on-internet-memes/464490/4 "2008-09-20T23:21:49Z")

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I dunno if I’m the Average Doper[sup]TM[/sup], but I’ve no idea what you’re on about. If that helps. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2008, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-clued-up-is-the-average-doper-on-internet-memes/464490/5 "2008-09-20T23:25:54Z")

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> [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](#):
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> Meme. I hate that word. I mentally pronounce it “mee-mee” when I see it. This message board is the only place I’ve ever seen it used.
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> Now I need to go look it up again because I can never remember what it means.
> 
> Sorry; didn’t mean to thread-fart.

Arse.

I had an epic edit for this thread going on that I missed the edit window… Now all of what I did has been lost and forgotten in the laziness that is I.

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**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2008, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-clued-up-is-the-average-doper-on-internet-memes/464490/6 "2008-09-20T23:29:53Z")

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ok I’ve skimmed the wiki entry on memes and I’m not altogether certain that I improved my grasp on the concept, but it sounds like memes are a SDMB meme.

Am I close?

Meme meme meme.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2008, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-clued-up-is-the-average-doper-on-internet-memes/464490/7 "2008-09-20T23:34:24Z")

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The SDMB certainly has the ability to create Memes (as does any other popular website) but it is by a long way not a thing that was invented or is monopolized by the SDMB.

This might help to understand it… Putting “Hi Opal” Is an SDMB Meme (But not an Internet Meme since it never made it to other websites)

If any website can hold the title for creating the most Memes it is 4chan (I am not a member) Most of the 4chan Memes I’ve seen third, fourth, fifth party.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2008, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-clued-up-is-the-average-doper-on-internet-memes/464490/8 "2008-09-20T23:39:43Z")

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Back to the OP. No, means nothing. Except that it reminds me of Christian Bale, who seems to have recently beat up his mom, or his sister, or someone. And I know about coca cola as an improvised birth control device. Not sure if this is related or not.

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2008, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-clued-up-is-the-average-doper-on-internet-memes/464490/9 "2008-09-20T23:40:37Z")

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> [@Lobsang](#):
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> If any website can hold the title for creating the most Memes it is 4chan (I am not a member) Most of the 4chan Memes I’ve seen third, fourth, fifth party.

[O RLY?](http://blog.pharmalive.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/o_rly.jpg)

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**Author:** ![1010011010](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/ea666f/32.png) [@1010011010](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/1010011010)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2008, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-clued-up-is-the-average-doper-on-internet-memes/464490/10 "2008-09-20T23:49:17Z")

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> [@Lobsang](#):
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> .. mean anything to you?

Yes.

Is this a “Can someone explain this to me?” thread or what?

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2008, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-clued-up-is-the-average-doper-on-internet-memes/464490/11 "2008-09-20T23:54:20Z")

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> [@Lobsang](#):
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> Well according to Richard Dawkins a Meme is the electronic (Internet) version of a Gene.

No. It’s the informational version of a gene. A meme is an idea that can reproduce itself somehow, like a fad or an urban legend or a philosophy. Memes usually mutate as well.

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**Author:** ![Cleophus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a88e57/32.png) [@Cleophus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cleophus)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-clued-up-is-the-average-doper-on-internet-memes/464490/12 "2008-09-21T00:27:07Z")

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For anyone who doesn’t get the meme in the OP, the standard form goes like this:

Troll: I just accidentally a Coca-Coca bottle. Is this dangerous?  
Unsuspecting person: Accidentally what?  
T: The whole bottle! What do I do?  
UP: I don’t understand. What did you do with the bottle?  
T: I accidentally the whole thing! This is serious, what do I do?

etc., etc. Other objects can be substituted for the bottle. The joke is the intentional omission of the verb involved, leading to speculation from the UP or others, usually of a sexual nature. The captioned image is yet another meme being combined with this one.

Also, I’d disagree with it being an “Internet” meme. It’s definitely just a \*chan meme. Some \*chan memes, like LOLcats, become general Internet memes, but most don’t (thank God). If you’re not active in the \*chan community there’s no reason you’d have anything more than incidental exposure to this meme.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-clued-up-is-the-average-doper-on-internet-memes/464490/13 "2008-09-21T00:40:15Z")

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> [@Cleophus](#):
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> For anyone who doesn’t get the meme in the OP, the standard form goes like this:
> 
> Troll: I just accidentally a Coca-Coca bottle. Is this dangerous?  
> Unsuspecting person: Accidentally what?  
> T: The whole bottle! What do I do?  
> UP: I don’t understand. What did you do with the bottle?  
> T: I accidentally the whole thing! This is serious, what do I do?
> 
> etc., etc. Other objects can be substituted for the bottle. The joke is the intentional omission of the verb involved, leading to speculation from the UP or others, usually of a sexual nature. The captioned image is yet another meme being combined with this one.
> 
> Also, I’d disagree with it being an “Internet” meme. It’s definitely just a \*chan meme. Some \*chan memes, like LOLcats, become general Internet memes, but most don’t (thank God). If you’re not active in the \*chan community there’s no reason you’d have anything more than incidental exposure to this meme.

It also seems to become a ‘meme’ to express in the most perfect way possible: the meaning of any particular meme.

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**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-clued-up-is-the-average-doper-on-internet-memes/464490/14 "2008-09-21T01:10:27Z")

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I also dislike this word. It seems like it is used incorrectly a lot of times on this board.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-clued-up-is-the-average-doper-on-internet-memes/464490/15 "2008-09-21T02:06:00Z")

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> [@Lobsang](#):
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> If any website can hold the title for creating the most Memes it is 4chan (I am not a member) Most of the 4chan Memes I’ve seen third, fourth, fifth party.

I personally have a 4chan gold account.

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-clued-up-is-the-average-doper-on-internet-memes/464490/16 "2008-09-21T02:23:10Z")

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I was a lot more au courant with memes back when Usenet had some currency, pre-2000. Nowadays, with specialized web fora and crossposting a thing of the past, the memepool is dominated by discrete fanships. I used gaming, _Simpsons_ and _Family Guy_ memes years before I knew where they were from.

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-clued-up-is-the-average-doper-on-internet-memes/464490/17 "2008-09-21T02:35:11Z")

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> [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](#):
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> Meme. I hate that word. I mentally pronounce it “mee-mee” when I see it. This message board is the only place I’ve ever seen it used.
> 
> Now I need to go look it up again because I can never remember what it means.
> 
> Sorry; didn’t mean to thread-fart.

I hear the word, an I am reminded of Diane Chambers’ pronunciation of “mime”.

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**Author:** ![maggenpye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@maggenpye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maggenpye)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-clued-up-is-the-average-doper-on-internet-memes/464490/18 "2008-09-21T02:58:38Z")

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I heard about memes during a talk given by David Brin, way back in the 20th century sometime. He did credit Richard Dawkins.

Which means memes are one of the few memes that I knew about almost from inception. I’m usually blithely unaware until they’ve run their course.

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-clued-up-is-the-average-doper-on-internet-memes/464490/19 "2008-09-21T03:10:33Z")

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Orly?  
Habeeb it!

_Ahem_ Now that THAT’S over with.

> [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](#):
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> Meme. I hate that word. I mentally pronounce it “mee-mee” when I see it. This message board is the only place I’ve ever seen it used.
> 
> Now I need to go look it up again because I can never remember what it means.
> 
> Sorry; didn’t mean to thread-fart.

I pronounce it like “Maim.” I don’t know why, maybe it’s because I have a deep understanding of what they are doing to the internet.

The one in the OP means nothing to me, but I haven’t been on 4chan in a few months (except for my standard “how good is this place’s websense” test). So I’m not “up” on the new /b/ memes. Eventually I’ll probably read up on all the new ones on Encyclopaedia Dramatica again.

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**Author:** ![Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4da419/32.png) [@Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gala_Matrix_Fire)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2008, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-clued-up-is-the-average-doper-on-internet-memes/464490/20 "2008-09-21T12:03:09Z")

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So…_did_ Christian Bale’s Batman say that to Heath Ledger’s Joker? Because I don’t remember that part.

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