# How come I have never seen.....and pink shirts on guys. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 26, 2005, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-come-i-have-never-seen-and-pink-shirts-on-guys/305585 "2005-05-26T12:36:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-come-i-have-never-seen-and-pink-shirts-on-guys/305585/21 "2005-05-26T14:26:36Z")
> [@Uncommon Sense](#): > > I’ve never seen two guys on a cycle, ever. If I did see it my first thought would be, “Oh, they’re probably a couple”. No big deal, just never seen it yet. > This must be part of the (straight) guy code -\*\* Do not ride motorcycles together.\*\* I have occasionally seen two guys on a motorcycle. However, it almost always has been the case that the guy in back was clutching to the base of the seat rather than wrap his arms around the guy in front to hang on. I’m pretty sure that 25 or more years ago, guys were less worried about ‘looking gay’ and a guy on the back seat would have been more likely to hang on to the driver. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-come-i-have-never-seen-and-pink-shirts-on-guys/305585/22 "2005-05-26T14:28:00Z")
> [@Trunk](#): > > I’ve ridden “bitch” once. > > I also like pink shirts on guys even though I’ve never worn one. Our local woman’s bicycle racing team has pink jerseys. I like them better than ours. I’ve also seen pink dress shirts on guys. Seems to work for those who choose them, though I don’t care for them. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-come-i-have-never-seen-and-pink-shirts-on-guys/305585/23 "2005-05-26T14:28:40Z")
Pre-coffee post, and first post of the day. Pink shirts seemed to be very popular in the mid-to-late-'80s in L.A. From a couple of the posts I skimmed, it seems as if they’re coming back? They look dated to me. I’ve given rides to guys on my motorcycle in the past, and I’ve ridden behind guys. But this was a long time ago, and out of necessity. (e.g., A friend’s car broke down, so I hitched a ride from a motorcyclist to a gas station.) Motorcycles can carry less weight than a car, and overloading it can cause premature wear on the chain (if it’s chain-driven). Since men tend to be heavier than women, it’s easier to overload a bike when two men ride it. There’s also a control issue. As a motorcyclist, I _hate_ riding in back. It’s very uncomfortable for me, because my instincts tell me I’m a better motorcyclist than the guy in front. (Doesn’t matter if he really is a better rider; it’s a control thing.) For straight men, I suppose there is also the stigma about being between another guy’s legs or having another guy between your legs. Also, it’s safer to hold onto the ‘driver’ than it is to hold onto the bike. That can be uncomfortable for straight guys. As for seeing guys together on a motorcycle (as opposed to riding with another guy myself), I must admit that this is something I’ve rarely seen. I think I’ve seen two women more often. I didn’t spend a lot of time in West Hollywood, but I would expect to see same-sex ‘couples’ on bikes there (and I have seen them). W. Hollywood has a very large fgay community, and Harley Davidsons are quite popular around there. ---
**Author:** ![Aangelica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@Aangelica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aangelica)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-come-i-have-never-seen-and-pink-shirts-on-guys/305585/24 "2005-05-26T14:33:20Z")
I’ve seen two guys on motorcycles. I’ve also seen a lot of pink shirts on men. I’ve seen three this morning so far. But then, I work at a downtown NYC law firm, so this is in no way surprising. Only one of the three pink shirts was on a gay man - and none on a man of color. Pink can look hot on a guy - depending on the guy. And the pink. It’s my opinion that hot pink doesn’t look good on anyone 😃 I, personally, can’t wear pink (or any other pastels). I have a theory though, that people like the colors they look good in. Probably because I only like colors I look good in 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Madd\_Maxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Madd\_Maxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Madd_Maxx)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-come-i-have-never-seen-and-pink-shirts-on-guys/305585/25 "2005-05-26T14:38:56Z")
I have ridden on the back of a friends motorcycle and I own (and wear) a long sleeve pink button-down shirt. I’m not gay. Maybe you just haven’t noticed it before, because neither of these things are really that uncommon. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-come-i-have-never-seen-and-pink-shirts-on-guys/305585/26 "2005-05-26T14:42:03Z")
Back in the 70’s, I wore a pink LaCoste shirt to school. A guy called me gay, I pointed out his girlfriend was wearing blue pants, he beat the crap out of me. ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-come-i-have-never-seen-and-pink-shirts-on-guys/305585/27 "2005-05-26T14:53:37Z")
I’ve worn pink shirts for the last twenty years. I’ve still got a couple I wear from time to time. I like 'em; YMMV. I do most of the housework and cooking in our household—it’s hard enough with just two of us. I don’t need anyone else to clean up after or to cook for. I’ve been one of the two guys on a motorcycle several times, both as the driver and passenger. I’ve never thought anything of it—if anyone thinks it means something, they are right. It means that two guys are sharing a motorcycle. ---
**Author:** ![Fringe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b5a626/32.png) [@Fringe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fringe)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-come-i-have-never-seen-and-pink-shirts-on-guys/305585/28 "2005-05-26T15:04:26Z")
> [@Futile Gesture](#): > > You haven’t been looking that hard then. > > What makes you think that two guys on a motorcycle are presumably gay? Do you presume the same about two guys in a car? Two guys anywhere? I guess people are more quick to assume that two guys on a motorcycle are gay, as opposed to two guys in a car, because in the car they have seperate seats and aren’t touching. ---
**Author:** ![My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f14d63/32.png) [@My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/My_Darn_Snake_Legs)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-come-i-have-never-seen-and-pink-shirts-on-guys/305585/29 "2005-05-26T15:10:02Z")
My ex-girlfriend was always trying to get me to wear pink. I always told her that if she bought me a pink shirt I’d wear it. I think she eventually realized that I don’t wear pink because it looks bad on me. I’ll stick to yellow. Maybe the reason that you rarely see two guys on a motorcycle is that guys who are friends and ride motorcycles tend to have their own. They aren’t terribly expensive and it’s much more fun to ride your own. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-come-i-have-never-seen-and-pink-shirts-on-guys/305585/30 "2005-05-26T15:12:35Z")
> [@Aangelica](#): > > Only one of the three pink shirts was on a gay man - and none on a man of color. I’ve seen pink shirts on Black men. IM(non-gay)O, they look better on people with dark skin than on people with light skin. ---
**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-come-i-have-never-seen-and-pink-shirts-on-guys/305585/31 "2005-05-26T15:12:42Z")
Back in the early 80’s, my old man was wearing a pink oxford shirt one summer. We went to visit his old army buddy, and… Well, let’s just say that the shirt wasn’t the only thing that was colorful. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![WotNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@WotNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WotNot)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-come-i-have-never-seen-and-pink-shirts-on-guys/305585/32 "2005-05-26T15:33:47Z")
Of course there are [many,](http://www.mtv.com/shared/media/news/images/s/Smith,_Will/sq-press-pink-shirt-sony.jpg) [many,](http://www.branaghcompendium.com/pink1.jpg) [different](http://www.vh1.com/shared/media/news/images/j/Jones_George/sq-grin_pink_shirt-cmhof.jpg) [shades](http://www.epgold.com/wallpaper/pink%20elvis.jpg) [of](http://a1259.g.akamai.net/f/1259/5586/1d/images.art.com/images/PRODUCTS/large/10030000/10030996.jpg) [pink](http://www.filegirl.com/images/1004/toughguy.JPG) ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-come-i-have-never-seen-and-pink-shirts-on-guys/305585/33 "2005-05-26T15:42:07Z")
> [@Uncommon Sense](#): > > I’ve never seen two guys on a cycle, ever. If I did see it my first thought would be, “Oh, they’re probably a couple”. No big deal, just never seen it yet. > This must be part of the (straight) guy code -\*\* Do not ride motorcycles together.\*\* Current mrAru and ex-mrAru used to ride the ex’s motorcycle to work together…the 3 of us shared a flat and the boat was in the shipyard at the time, and as parking was seriously short, they rode John’s bike because there was always good bike parking availability. Also because they had been barracksmates they had shared John’s bike previously because mrAru didn’t have a car…so if they wanted to go out and do something, it was either ride John’s bike, or call a cab, and both are notoriously cheap=) ---
**Author:** ![PinkMarabou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@PinkMarabou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PinkMarabou)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-come-i-have-never-seen-and-pink-shirts-on-guys/305585/34 "2005-05-26T15:52:29Z")
> [@eleanorigby](#): > > Some guys look really hot in pink-especially in the summer, when they have a touch of tan. You need to be groomed to wear pink-the Bluto look isn’t gonna do it. YES!! Light pink button down dress shirts look absolutely delicious on a nicely groomed man. The darker the complexion, the better it looks, IMO. But even a nice tan (real or fake) will do the trick. YUMMMMMMMMY! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-come-i-have-never-seen-and-pink-shirts-on-guys/305585/35 "2005-05-26T15:54:32Z")
“Marge, I can’t wear a pink shirt to work. Everybody wears white shirts. I’m not popular enough to be different.” -Homer Simpson. And, later, “Just because I’m wearing a pink shirt doesn’t mean that I’m a pink donut eater.” ---
**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-come-i-have-never-seen-and-pink-shirts-on-guys/305585/36 "2005-05-26T16:44:14Z")
I just saw two guys on a motorcycle yesterday. I own several pink shirts both dress and polo types. It’s a color that looks good on me, as does wine and burgundy. ---
**Author:** ![Triskadecamus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@Triskadecamus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Triskadecamus)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-come-i-have-never-seen-and-pink-shirts-on-guys/305585/37 "2005-05-26T16:48:23Z")
I wore a pink shirt in High School. It was 1963, I think, or maybe a year or so later that I first did so. It was just one of my shirts. A real nice one, though, and I rather liked it. No one ever said anything to me about it. I was not so much popular, as famous, so it wasn’t because of being a trendsetter, or anything. (The stadium full of people chanting “Get the guy in the pink shirt.” was not really related to the shirt. No, really. It was another thing entirely.) Polyamorous relationships are extremely rare because human jealousy, in sexual matters is extraordinarily common. That doesn’t even mention ignoring long distance bills, and not cleaning the toilet, which are even more common. Gay guys do ride together on their bikes, sometimes holding on tightly to the driver, sometimes leaning back and smiling. Sometimes it’s a “Look us us, man, are we gay!” thing, and sometimes it’s a “Hey, can I have a ride?” thing. Dykes on Bikes is a political thing, I think. Anyway, it’s a club. ## Tris “I’m celibate. I used to just be not gettin’ any, but celibate is really pretty much the same, and it sounds all classy and philosophical.” ~ Me ~ ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-come-i-have-never-seen-and-pink-shirts-on-guys/305585/38 "2005-05-26T16:50:37Z")
> [@PinkMarabou](#): > > YUMMMMMMMMY! > > 😃 Given your username, I can’t help but think you might be biased. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-come-i-have-never-seen-and-pink-shirts-on-guys/305585/39 "2005-05-26T16:51:22Z")
> [@Triskadecamus](#): > > “I’m celibate. I used to just be not gettin’ any, but celibate is really pretty much the same, and it sounds all classy and philosophical.” ~ Me ~ Hm. I may have to use that. Except that I’d add ‘and shite’ to the end. ---
**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2005, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-come-i-have-never-seen-and-pink-shirts-on-guys/305585/40 "2005-05-26T16:53:14Z")
> [@Uncommon Sense](#): > > I have never seen two guys on a motorcycle. Why don’t gay couples ride together? Straight couples often do, yet I have never seen two (presumedly) gay guys on a cycle together. What gives. > > A three person relationship where they share each other, the bedroom, the house and each have a successful career. Probably not a marriage linked threesome since that’s illegal, but more of a casual type romantic relationship where they share everything, hang out together and sleep together. I think this would probably only work with a gay threesome where the concept of pregnancy is out of the question. Or, not. Who knows? The thought occurred to me in the shower this morning when I was thinking how nice it would be to have the wife working and have two incomes. Then I thought, “What if there was a third person?, but not an offspring, somone with a career that would acually contribute NOW, like another female, cause I could certainly use one in the shower right now, cause it’s too early to wake up the wife, and another income would certainly be helpful…” > > Another thought; > When did it become OK for guys to wear pink shirts? I’ve seen a number of them recently 'course I’m in the MidWest and we’re usually a _little_ behind in the fashion world. And when we do catch up we’re often very confused about what actually went over well in the rest of the country, so we end up screwing everything up. I suspect the pink shirt is an example of this. You aint ever been to San Francisco have you 🙂 Also pink shirts have allways been allright for men to wear, it is just that you have to be pretty darned macho to get away with it (if you aren’t trying to look effeminate) and so most men aren’t up to the challenge. Pink shirt, power suit and Clint Eastward jaw line has always been acceptable mens wear. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-come-i-have-never-seen-and-pink-shirts-on-guys/305585.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-come-i-have-never-seen-and-pink-shirts-on-guys/305585.md?page=3)