# How could you not have known that?

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 10, 2011, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-could-you-not-have-known-that/584930 "2011-06-10T02:12:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-could-you-not-have-known-that/584930/41 "2011-06-10T18:52:53Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> Galaxy Quest is a brilliantly funny movie, and any fan of sci-fi should at least give it a try. It gently mocks us and the shows, and Dio said it best: it’s a love letter to us.
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> My favorite part - I forget how it goes, exactly.
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> “WHY do there have to be big chompy things?”  
> “It was in the episode.”  
> “Well I’m not doing it! That episide was badly written!”
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> Or
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> “I see you’ve managed to get your shirt off.” God, even just thinking about the delivery on that line has me laughing. 🙂
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> And Guy:
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> “Oh…oh…that’s not right.”

I though Sam Rockwell stole the show with his portrayal of the Doomed Redshirt. At first totally paranoid, he becomes resigned to his inevitable fate, then hilariously suicidal, and finally a Major Character, when he somehow survives in spite of everything. He had me crying, I was laughing so hard.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-could-you-not-have-known-that/584930/42 "2011-06-10T20:40:25Z")

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> [@Ogre](#):
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> I though Sam Rockwell stole the show with his portrayal of the Doomed Redshirt. At first totally paranoid, he becomes resigned to his inevitable fate, then hilariously suicidal, and finally a Major Character, when he somehow survives in spite of everything. He had me crying, I was laughing so hard.

He should have won the Academy Award. I’m not joking. Comedy acting is so hard.

[This whole clip is funny, but I love his reaction to “You have a last name.”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mXWXwxPtXg#t=1m16s)

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/22080_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-could-you-not-have-known-that/584930/43 "2011-06-10T20:41:51Z")

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At the risk of posting a “me, too”, this is a fun movie, especially if you’re the type to mock Star Trek and its ilk. I’ve never been a SF fan but I love this movie. And it’s a good family flick, too. I don’t recall any language or adult content beyond Sigourney Weaver’s costume getting torn, and even that wasn’t a huge deal.

If you haven’t seen it, pop up some popcorn and settle in for a giggle.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-could-you-not-have-known-that/584930/44 "2011-06-10T20:50:31Z")

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Come to think of it, Galaxy Quest:Star Trek::This is Spinal Tap:The Song Remains the Same.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-could-you-not-have-known-that/584930/45 "2011-06-10T21:31:57Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> There was also [that little movie](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120915/) which George Lucas released in '99, which got the geeks all excited

As illustrated by this [trailer](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8Pb0-c2F4I&feature=related).

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-could-you-not-have-known-that/584930/46 "2011-06-10T21:33:02Z")

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“Well [del]fuck[/del] screw that!”

I love how this quote in the movie is done. They deliberately let you read her lips and say the first word, but the second work is dubbed in.

“Whoever wrote this episode should _ **DIE** _!”

But corny as it is, my favorite scene is when Quillek(sp?) has been shot, and is expressing to Alan Rickman’s character the admiration and respect he has always had for him. Then Rickman’s little speech, and his angry reaction. In spite of the fact I know my emotions are being manipulated I always get a tear or two at this point.

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**Author:** ![Ura-Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/51bf81/32.png) [@Ura-Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ura-Maru)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-could-you-not-have-known-that/584930/47 "2011-06-10T22:16:17Z")

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There was sort of a divide around the late 90’s, when the size of geekdom exploded. Up to a certain point, it was possible for someone to have seen, or at least been aware, of pretty much all of it. Past that point, it wasn’t, unless you were going to consume media full time. So I can understand both the missing it, and the not believing someone could have missed it.

Honesly, I didn’t see _ **Galaxy Quest** _ til years after it came out, because I got the impression it was going to be much more self-hating than it actually ended up being. What TVTropes likes to call [This Loser Is You](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThisLoserIsYou). I was pleasantly surprised to find out it was was a _ **The Slayers** _-esque loving self parody. Once you got past the more-than-a-little-meanspirited Con part of it, anyway.

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The TVTropes warning is contextual.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-could-you-not-have-known-that/584930/48 "2011-06-10T22:39:02Z")

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> [@Ura-Maru](#):
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> There was sort of a divide around the late 90’s, when the size of geekdom exploded. Up to a certain point, it was possible for someone to have seen, or at least been aware, of pretty much all of it. Past that point, it wasn’t, unless you were going to consume media full time. So I can understand both the missing it, and the not believing someone could have missed it.
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> Honesly, I didn’t see _ **Galaxy Quest** _ til years after it came out, because I got the impression it was going to be much more self-hating than it actually ended up being. What TVTropes likes to call [This Loser Is You](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThisLoserIsYou). I was pleasantly surprised to find out it was was a _ **The Slayers** _-esque loving self parody. Once you got past the more-than-a-little-meanspirited Con part of it, anyway.
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> The TVTropes warning is contextual.

The Con part of it was only mean-spirited because you were supposed to be seeing it through the eyes of the crew, who were oh-so-fed-up with the whole thing because they had been doing it for decades. At the end, the whole atmosphere of the Con is completely different. Good film-making.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-could-you-not-have-known-that/584930/49 "2011-06-10T22:52:40Z")

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It’s weird that GQ and Matrix came out around the same time. I saw both in theater, but if you’d asked me just now I’d have said GQ came out years before Matrix.

Anyhoo, are we sure the comic book store nerd wasn’t just being really nerdy? I’m thinking of how people will joke that Jar Jar Binks never happened. Or maybe they’ll pretend an entire movie never happened. Usually it’s a joke, but every once in awhile a nerd will want everyone to know just how much they have no idea that a certain hated thing doesn’t exist and they’re continually surprised to hear about it.

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-could-you-not-have-known-that/584930/50 "2011-06-10T23:11:43Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Or maybe they’ll pretend an entire movie never happened.

They probably wouldn’t stock the spin-off toy, then.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-could-you-not-have-known-that/584930/51 "2011-06-11T00:01:16Z")

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> [@spark240](#):
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> They probably wouldn’t stock the spin-off toy, then.

Sure they would. Otherwise, how often would they get the opportunity to proclaim their complete nescience of it?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-could-you-not-have-known-that/584930/52 "2011-06-11T02:02:17Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Anyhoo, are we sure the comic book store nerd wasn’t just being really nerdy? I’m thinking of how people will joke that Jar Jar Binks never happened. Or maybe they’ll pretend an entire movie never happened. Usually it’s a joke, but every once in awhile a nerd will want everyone to know just how much they have no idea that a certain hated thing doesn’t exist and they’re continually surprised to hear about it.

No, I really got the sense that he didn’t know the movie.

And I should also point out this guy is no kid. He’s at least my own age so he’s old enough to have been watching movies in 1999.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-could-you-not-have-known-that/584930/53 "2011-06-11T04:18:54Z")

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> [@Mrs.Cake](#):
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> Even if you can’t get past the idea of Tim Allen (who really is well-cast in this case), the presence of Sigourney Weaver, Alan Rickman, Sam Rockwell, and Tony Shalhoub should be enough to get anyone to give it a try. One of my holiday favorites.

That has me convinced that I should see it.

> [@billfish678](#):
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> Galaxy Quest. Its a parody. Its a comedy. Its a silly adventure. And despite all that it STILL makes more sense and has a more consistent plot and is more believable than many supposedly serious Sci Fi episodes. Any Sci Fi fan should see it. It may not be the greatest movie ever but it is one of the better of its type and there arent many like it.

I’m not a sci fi fan. I like science fiction, speculative fiction, and fantasy. I do NOT like things with titles like _Revenge of the Giant Ant Men_ or _Tarantula Terror_. I DO like _Bimbos of the Death Sun_, but that’s a mystery set at a science fiction/fantasy convention…and it’s hilarious.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-could-you-not-have-known-that/584930/54 "2011-06-11T04:35:45Z")

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FWIW, _Galaxy Quest_ has earned the Boyo Jim stamp of approval.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-could-you-not-have-known-that/584930/55 "2011-06-11T04:59:07Z")

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> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> That has me convinced that I should see it.

You’ll like it. It’s one of those unexpected gems, where you go in expecting nothing and get pleasantly surprised. Tim Allen’s one good movie (outside the _Toy Story_ movies). It has intelligence, it has a heart and it’s funny.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-could-you-not-have-known-that/584930/56 "2011-06-11T05:09:45Z")

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Most of all, it has Sigourney Weaver. I almost didn’t watch it because of Tim Allen, but I’m a big fan of Sigourney. I actually met her in person once – absolutely gorgeous and totally charming, though IMO she’s a good enough actress that she could be a total bitch and just acting the charming part. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-could-you-not-have-known-that/584930/57 "2011-06-11T05:30:11Z")

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Is there a difference between being genuinely charming, and just acting charming all the time?

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-could-you-not-have-known-that/584930/58 "2011-06-11T05:45:54Z")

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If you are genuinely charming, you may or may not be able to switch it on and off. That’s why my motto is “Never trust an actor”. The better they are, the less you can know about their true nature.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-could-you-not-have-known-that/584930/59 "2011-06-11T05:52:31Z")

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Gee. I like Tim Allen. I think the first _Santa Clause_ and _For Richer For Poorer_ are fun movies.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-could-you-not-have-known-that/584930/60 "2011-06-11T05:55:02Z")

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You need to seek treatment immediately. 😛

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