# How creepy is this? (Guy fondles woman's hair on public transportation) **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 4, 2013, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-creepy-is-this-guy-fondles-womans-hair-on-public-transportation/646021 "2013-01-04T01:15:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-creepy-is-this-guy-fondles-womans-hair-on-public-transportation/646021/1 "2013-01-04T01:15:08Z")
[A guy fondling a woman’s hair is caught on video on public transportation in Calgary.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rxnDo3lzBs) How creepy is this? It’s pretty high on my creep-o-meter, but maybe it’s not so bad? It seems like the kind of thing that guys who enjoy groping women on crowded transportation do. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-creepy-is-this-guy-fondles-womans-hair-on-public-transportation/646021/2 "2013-01-04T01:35:29Z")
The video caption says the hair-fondler was also “playing with himself” at the same time. So, damned creepy if that’s the case. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-creepy-is-this-guy-fondles-womans-hair-on-public-transportation/646021/3 "2013-01-04T01:41:42Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > It seems like the kind of thing that guys who enjoy groping women on crowded transportation do. Which is itself highly “creepy”; knee-him-in-the-balls creepy. Quotes because “creepy” is an understatement; “creepy” to me would be looking at an unwilling strange woman while masturbating; touching her while doing so goes beyond just creepy. More like sexual assault. ---
**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-creepy-is-this-guy-fondles-womans-hair-on-public-transportation/646021/4 "2013-01-04T02:07:05Z")
The playing-with-himself angle takes it over the edge, but just having one’s hair played with on a crowded subway or bus doesn’t seem like something shocking to me. I’ve only ridden public transportation like that on a handful of business trips, and in that time I’ve had my hair played with and had my ass groped. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-creepy-is-this-guy-fondles-womans-hair-on-public-transportation/646021/5 "2013-01-04T02:15:52Z")
Depends which hair he was fondling. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-creepy-is-this-guy-fondles-womans-hair-on-public-transportation/646021/6 "2013-01-04T02:20:40Z")
He was playing with himself, too? {Goes back and reads comments} Gah, that is much worse! > [@](#): > > The sad truth is there are thousands of mentally ill people wandering around in Canada that are not getting the help they need from the government. Its just a good thing we have gun restrictions. The government needs to put these people in institutions or at least monitor them to make sure they are taking their medication and its working. Posting a video on Youtube of an obviously mentally ill person isnt right either. That is for the police to decide not you. Its a rights violation as well. That’s true enough, that the mentally ill are not well provided for in Canada, but that doesn’t make it okay for perverts to do what he did. ---
**Author:** ![ed\_anger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbce88/32.png) [@ed\_anger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ed_anger)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-creepy-is-this-guy-fondles-womans-hair-on-public-transportation/646021/7 "2013-01-04T04:00:54Z")
People can’t tell when someone is touching their hair? Really? ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-creepy-is-this-guy-fondles-womans-hair-on-public-transportation/646021/8 "2013-01-04T04:08:50Z")
> [@ed\_anger](#): > > People can’t tell when someone is touching their hair? Really? The hair itself doesn’t have nerves. He didn’t pull her hair at all, so what is she going to feel? ---
**Author:** ![ed\_anger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbce88/32.png) [@ed\_anger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ed_anger)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-creepy-is-this-guy-fondles-womans-hair-on-public-transportation/646021/9 "2013-01-04T04:14:24Z")
Moving hair will inevitably pull some. I’ve never been able to touch someone hair for long without them noticing. ---
**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-creepy-is-this-guy-fondles-womans-hair-on-public-transportation/646021/10 "2013-01-04T04:16:11Z")
You know what else is creepy? Taking video of this happening and not either telling the guy to knock it off or alerting the woman. This is beyond creepy; it’s at least bordering on assault. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-creepy-is-this-guy-fondles-womans-hair-on-public-transportation/646021/11 "2013-01-04T04:29:28Z")
> [@InternetLegend](#): > > You know what else is creepy? Taking video of this happening and not either telling the guy to knock it off or alerting the woman. This is beyond creepy; it’s at least bordering on assault. Yeah, like you’re going to bounce out of your seat and run to tell someone her hair is being touched. Sure. I’d risk my well-being for that all right. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-creepy-is-this-guy-fondles-womans-hair-on-public-transportation/646021/12 "2013-01-04T04:31:30Z")
> [@ed\_anger](#): > > I’ve never been able to touch someone hair for long without them noticing. Uh, so you’ve tried?? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![ed\_anger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbce88/32.png) [@ed\_anger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ed_anger)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-creepy-is-this-guy-fondles-womans-hair-on-public-transportation/646021/13 "2013-01-04T05:12:05Z")
I’m behind you right now. You know, jokes, friends, ha ha? ---
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-creepy-is-this-guy-fondles-womans-hair-on-public-transportation/646021/14 "2013-01-04T05:18:19Z")
That is super-creepy. And the video-taker is also a creep for not saying anything. I had a couple scenarios run through my head before clicking the link. One, specifically was when I was on a train and the woman in front of me flipped her very long hair before sitting back all the way, resulting in some of her hair basically in my lap. I sat there for a minute trying to decide what to do. I could pet it, I could cut some off, sneeze on it, I could just sit there and look at it, or ultimately what I did was tap her on her shoulder and ask her to take her hair back, please. If I was some creepy dude, I really wouldn’t put it past a creep to make sure it was enhanced Cameron Diaz style. Hey, it was already _there_, and she put it there. But, back to the video, that’s not what went on there, and both the guy and the video-taker were asses. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-creepy-is-this-guy-fondles-womans-hair-on-public-transportation/646021/15 "2013-01-04T05:27:35Z")
> [@ed\_anger](#): > > I’m behind you right now. > > You know, jokes, friends, ha ha? Lucky for me I shave my head. Hate to break it to ya. Now go zip up. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-creepy-is-this-guy-fondles-womans-hair-on-public-transportation/646021/16 "2013-01-04T07:19:09Z")
The masturbation angle makes it creepy. Without that, this is just something that happens on shampoo commercials. ---
**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-creepy-is-this-guy-fondles-womans-hair-on-public-transportation/646021/17 "2013-01-04T08:30:03Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > [A guy fondling a woman’s hair is caught on video on public transportation in Calgary.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rxnDo3lzBs) > > How creepy is this? It’s pretty high on my creep-o-meter, but maybe it’s not so bad? It seems like the kind of thing that guys who enjoy groping women on crowded transportation do. As far as I’m concerned, a stranger intentionally touching me without my permission (except in safety-related situations such as keeping me from falling, of course) is creepy in and of itself, whatever else his other hand is doing. I’m also none too fond of surprise hands near my face (poor vision). ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-creepy-is-this-guy-fondles-womans-hair-on-public-transportation/646021/18 "2013-01-04T12:09:24Z")
> [@ed\_anger](#): > > People can’t tell when someone is touching their hair? Really? It was in a ponytail, so my guess was that unless he was actually pulling it or moving it around a ton, all she’d feel was the sensation of the ponytail at her scalp. Oh yeah, and put me in the “any kind of touching me is Bad and probably creepy” camp. I take public transportation daily to and from work. I get that sometimes you’re crammed in like sardines and there’s just no avoiding some bodily contact, but someone intentionally reaching out and touching/stroking anything is out of line. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-creepy-is-this-guy-fondles-womans-hair-on-public-transportation/646021/19 "2013-01-04T12:23:48Z")
Your hair is not a part of you. In fact, neither is the top layer or two of your skin. So, touch away, I say! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2013, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-creepy-is-this-guy-fondles-womans-hair-on-public-transportation/646021/20 "2013-01-04T13:48:42Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > Your hair is not a part of you. In fact, neither is the top layer or two of your skin. So, touch away, I say! 😃 Once you start along that road, most of you is not part of ‘you’ - I mean, your brain is you, but the rest of it is just accessories. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-creepy-is-this-guy-fondles-womans-hair-on-public-transportation/646021.md?page=2)