# How Dare You PG Me! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 2, 2006, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-dare-you-pg-me/362915 "2006-07-02T05:06:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2006, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-dare-you-pg-me/362915/1 "2006-07-02T05:06:15Z")
Sometimes you can get [too much](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060702/ap_en_mo/christian_movie_rating_12) of the censorship that you normally desire. šŸ™‚ Ah, how I am amused by this. Let the schadenfreude begin. [And yes, I did try to search for this to make certain it hadnā€™t been posted before, but my abilities ainā€™t ever what I need them to be. So, if it has, please do whatever mod action is necessary to make it sleep with the fishies. Gracias.] ---
**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2006, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-dare-you-pg-me/362915/2 "2006-07-02T05:19:42Z")
**X** cuse me, but **R** they joking? Just try **NC-17** faith-based movies without vomiting. **G** , the nerve of some people. Itā€™s enough to give someone **NR** ā€™t attack. ---
**Author:** ![Buckler\_of\_Swashing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Buckler\_of\_Swashing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buckler_of_Swashing)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2006, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-dare-you-pg-me/362915/3 "2006-07-02T05:25:08Z")
Someone dared treat a religious film the same as other films? The Shock!ā„¢ The Horror!ā„¢ Sounds like they gave it a PG rating due to ā€˜mature discussions about serious topicsā€™ such as pregnancy. Who wouldnā€™t? Just someone getting their holy knickers in a knot because they might miss out on flooding some younger minds with religious ideals via the big screen. Plenty of parents will still take their kids to see a PG film. ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2006, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-dare-you-pg-me/362915/4 "2006-07-02T05:45:57Z")
A great chance to pander to your base, Huzzah! ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2006, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-dare-you-pg-me/362915/5 "2006-07-02T05:56:12Z")
> [@treis](#): > > A great chance to pander to your base, Huzzah! too right ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2006, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-dare-you-pg-me/362915/6 "2006-07-02T06:08:44Z")
Exposure to Christian themes _should_ earn PG ratings, anyway. Exposure to Neo-Pagan themes would, Iā€™m sure. ---
**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2006, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-dare-you-pg-me/362915/7 "2006-07-02T06:15:23Z")
Heh. Christian themes? All they have to do is listen to some of the older Christmas carols. Theyā€™d be rated R for sure. All that stuff about virgins and wombs ā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![some\_white\_dude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b487fb/32.png) [@some\_white\_dude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/some_white_dude)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2006, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-dare-you-pg-me/362915/8 "2006-07-02T06:16:44Z")
> [@Roy Blunt](#): > > This incident raises the disquieting possibility that the MPAA considers exposure to Christian themes more dangerous for children than exposure to gratuitous sex and violence. I thought gratuitous sex and violence were some of the major bonuses of being a Christian. ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2006, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-dare-you-pg-me/362915/9 "2006-07-02T07:25:07Z")
_ā€œThe MPAA considers exposure to Christian themes more dangerous for children than exposure to gratuitous sex and violenceā€_ā€¦wha? huh?? What kind of delusional thinking does it take to reach THAT conclusion? And why the fuck should CONGRESS even give a shit? ---
**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2006, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-dare-you-pg-me/362915/10 "2006-07-02T07:25:28Z")
> [@Roy Blunt](#): > > This incident raises the disquieting possibility that the MPAA considers exposure to Christian themes more dangerous for children than exposure to gratuitous sex and violence. ā€¦because movies with gratuitous sex and violence get rated G all the time ---
**Author:** ![TJdude825](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@TJdude825](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TJdude825)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2006, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-dare-you-pg-me/362915/11 "2006-07-02T07:38:12Z")
> [@KGS](#): > > And why the fuck should CONGRESS even give a shit? The MPAA isnā€™t a government agency is it? Because if it is that makes sense. But itā€™s not, right? Personally, I donā€™t think anyone has any business telling us how appropriate any movie is if we donā€™t ask them. ---
**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2006, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-dare-you-pg-me/362915/12 "2006-07-02T08:37:44Z")
The Associated Press must have very lax proofreading standards: > [@](#): > > After meeting with MPAA officials, Blunt and a handful of other House members said they remain concerned about the subjective _native_ of the ratings process. The subjective _what_? They meant ā€œnatureā€, right? > [@](#): > > ā€œHe dares to challenge his players to believe God for the impossible on and off the field,ā€ the movieā€™s Web site says. I hope thatā€™s not what the movieā€™s web site says, because thatā€™s an incoherent sentence. (I couldnā€™t check what their site actually said, because it requires Flash.) ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2006, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-dare-you-pg-me/362915/13 "2006-07-02T11:39:33Z")
> [@TJdude825](#): > > The MPAA isnā€™t a government agency is it? Because if it is that makes sense. But itā€™s not, right? It ainā€™t, but letā€™s remember folks that a 1/100th of a second shot of a titty is more harmful to developing minds than seeing a dozen or so guys running around trying to maim each other in simulated warfare and who tend to pat one another on the ass frequently. Also, despite claims to the contrary, [discussing flag burning is the most vitally important thing Congress should be doing right now.](http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/28/hatch-priorities/) > [@](#): > > Hatch Says Banning Flag Burning Is ā€˜The Most Important Thing The Senate Could Be Doingā€™ > > On the Senate floor yesterday, Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) said there was nothing the Senate could be doing that was more important than banning flag burning. ---
**Author:** ![gardentraveler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gardentraveler/32/3576_2.png) [@gardentraveler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gardentraveler)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2006, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-dare-you-pg-me/362915/14 "2006-07-02T11:50:04Z")
Took me a while to find the offending sentence, but itā€™s there, under ā€œStory.ā€ The best I could find, however is from ā€œInside the Filmā€ (click on the first thumbnail on the left [at the bottom of the page](http://www.sherwoodpictures.com/templates/cusftg/default.asp?id=32007). Theyā€™re talking about the producersā€™ previous film and conclude with this stirring sentence about the current film: > [@](#): > > May He use Facing the Giants to do much moreā€¦more than we could ask or imagine. (Ephesians 3:20) Iā€™m pretty sure that _Facing the Giants_ isnā€™t mentioned in Ephesians. Based on the web site, this sounds like an extraordinarily cheesy film. Canā€™t believe anyone would waste their time worrying about the rating. GT ---
**Author:** ![Idlewild](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8491ac/32.png) [@Idlewild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idlewild)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2006, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-dare-you-pg-me/362915/15 "2006-07-02T12:50:20Z")
> [@gardentraveler](#): > > Theyā€™re talking about the producersā€™ previous film and conclude with this stirring sentence about the current film: > > > [@](#): > > > > May He use Facing the Giants to do much moreā€¦more than we could ask or imagine. (Ephesians 3:20) > > Iā€™m pretty sure that _Facing the Giants_ isnā€™t mentioned in Ephesians. Based on the web site, this sounds like an extraordinarily cheesy film. Canā€™t believe anyone would waste their time worrying about the rating. > > GT Itā€™s right in there after Paul gives two thumbs up to _Babetteā€™s Feast_ for its excellent artistic direction. Letter to the Galatians has a kickass critique of _The Road Warrior_, too. ---
**Author:** ![BluePitbull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@BluePitbull](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BluePitbull)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2006, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-dare-you-pg-me/362915/16 "2006-07-02T13:04:27Z")
Why would a movie be rated PG if it only deals with Christian themes? What is wrong with that? ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2006, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-dare-you-pg-me/362915/17 "2006-07-02T15:39:27Z")
> [@BluePitbull](#): > > Why would a movie be rated PG if it only deals with Christian themes? What is wrong with that? Assuming youā€™re not joking, Iā€™ll try to answer this seriously. A G rated movie is deemed appropriate for everyone - 2 year olds, 5 year olds, 75 year olds. Itā€™s supposed to be the movie you can take your kid and your grandma to and not have to answer awkward questions during. While I havenā€™t seen this movie, and it appears that there are topics like pregnancy which are discussed in a ā€œmatureā€ way, making a PG rating appropriate, letā€™s examine your question at face value. Would you like to explain to a 4 year old the story of [Tamar,](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamar_(Bible)) which includes lots of sex, rape and prostitution? How about [David and Bathsheba?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David) A nice little family tale of adultery, torture, murder - oh, and God kills the baby at the end. Sorry, should I have spoilered that? How about the story of [Lot,](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lot_(biblical)) who tries to throw his own (virgin) daughters to a mob to be raped? Or there was that one guy who committed no crimes, ever, but was beaten bloody by some soldiers, nailed to a stick and died in agony. There are hundreds of perfectly Biblical, Christian stories that could be inappropriate for children. I hope you didnā€™t take your kids to _The Passion of the Christ._ ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2006, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-dare-you-pg-me/362915/18 "2006-07-02T17:07:51Z")
> [@Buckler of Swashing](#): > > Someone dared treat a religious film the same as other films? The Shock!ā„¢ The Horror!ā„¢ _Facing the Giants_ is a football film, not a religious one. > [@](#): > > _Sounds like they gave it a PG rating due to ā€˜mature discussions about serious topicsā€™ such as pregnancy._ No, the filmmakers expected it to get a PG rating because of those ā€œmature discussions about serious topicā€ā€™ but they initially heard from the MPAA that it had to do with faith, not pregnancy discussions. > [@](#): > > _Just someone getting their holy knickers in a knot because they might miss out on flooding some younger minds with religious ideals via the big screen. Plenty of parents will still take their kids to see a PG film._ Did you miss the fact that the filmmakers did not dispute the rating? ---
**Author:** ![soulmurk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@soulmurk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soulmurk)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2006, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-dare-you-pg-me/362915/19 "2006-07-02T17:57:41Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > _Facing the Giants_ is a football film, not a religious one. The [movie poster](http://www.sherwoodpictures.com/templates/cusftg/details.asp?id=32007&PID=349985) features a tagline that directly refers to keeping faith and proclaims that ā€œwith God, all things are possibleā€, two barely disguised crosses, and font reminiscent of The Passion of the Christ. The producer is marketing the film as ā€œan inspirational drama about a high school football coach who relies on faith to battle fear and failure,ā€ and the official website has sprinklings of praise from outspoken Christians associated with the NFL like Dan Reeves and Randall Cunningham. Seems blatantly religious to me. > [@](#): > > No, the filmmakers expected it to get a PG rating because of those ā€œmature discussions about serious topicā€ā€™ but they initially heard from the MPAA that it had to do with faith, not pregnancy discussions. The MPAA said that religion was a part of the rating, not the sole reason. Why they backed down on that stance, I donā€™t know. > [@](#): > > Did you miss the fact that the filmmakers did not dispute the rating? I believe the ā€œsomeoneā€ who got their holy knickers in a knot **Buckler of Swashing** was referring to was Roy Blunt, not the makers of the film. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2006, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-dare-you-pg-me/362915/20 "2006-07-02T18:12:25Z")
> [@soulmurk](#): > > The [movie poster](http://www.sherwoodpictures.com/templates/cusftg/details.asp?id=32007&PID=349985) features a tagline that directly refers to keeping faith and proclaims that ā€œwith God, all things are possibleā€, two barely disguised crosses, and font reminiscent of The Passion of the Christ. Thatā€™s a poster, not the movie. > [@](#): > > _The producer is marketing the film as ā€œan inspirational drama about a high school football coach who relies on faith to battle fear and failure,ā€ and the official website has sprinklings of praise from outspoken Christians associated with the NFL like Dan Reeves and Randall Cunningham._ I heard in a radio interview, I think it was with one of the Kendricks, that ā€œfaithā€ is faith in general, not the religious sort. > [@](#): > > _The MPAA said that religion was a part of the rating, not the sole reason. Why they backed down on that stance, I donā€™t know._ In the same interview, the filmmaker said they asked the MPAA exactly what it was that they based the rating on. They were told it was specifically the faith part and that the MPAA was okay with the pregnancy discussion. > [@](#): > > _I believe the ā€œsomeoneā€ who got their holy knickers in a knot **Buckler of Swashing** was referring to was Roy Blunt, not the makers of the film._ I donā€™t know about you but ā€œholy knickersā€ sounds like the finger was being pointed at the filmmakers. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-dare-you-pg-me/362915.md?page=2)