# How Democrats should talk about socialism **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 3, 2019, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-democrats-should-talk-about-socialism/834950 "2019-06-03T14:11:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2019, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-democrats-should-talk-about-socialism/834950/161 "2019-11-04T19:16:32Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Why use the term? Yes, UHC is “socialist”, but it’s also good. Why not just call it “good”? I think it’s good. I also think it’s socialist, as does, in my understanding, most of the planet. I don’t see much point in trying to pretend this isn’t so. ---
**Author:** ![Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2019, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-democrats-should-talk-about-socialism/834950/162 "2019-11-04T19:56:43Z")
Democrats should talk about the hybrid system of capitalism and socialism. They should embrace a Cuba-style healthcare system without mentioning Cuba. Most people don’t like the healthcare insurance companies, but Warren is not a good messenger nationally to talk about this. Also, Democrats should stop punishing success and enterprise; America is built on that. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2019, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-democrats-should-talk-about-socialism/834950/163 "2019-11-04T20:13:16Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I think it’s good. I also think it’s socialist, as does, in my understanding, most of the planet. I don’t see much point in trying to pretend this isn’t so. Why not give it a shot? Apparently everyone has been able to pretend that the military isn’t a socialist organization. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2019, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-democrats-should-talk-about-socialism/834950/164 "2019-11-04T20:35:46Z")
Military health care, even for vets, is beyond “socialistic”. The Government OWNS the hospitals and the doctors are government employees. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2019, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-democrats-should-talk-about-socialism/834950/165 "2019-11-04T21:16:50Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Why not give it a shot? Apparently everyone has been able to pretend that the military isn’t a socialist organization. Lots of folks are already trying that - I’m proposing an additional argument that might be effective in some circumstances. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2019, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-democrats-should-talk-about-socialism/834950/166 "2019-11-04T23:06:06Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > Also, Democrats should stop punishing success and enterprise; America is built on that. Where do you get the idea that Democrats are punishing success; Democrats propose controlling what is monopolistic power. ---
**Author:** ![str8cashhomie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7cd45c/32.png) [@str8cashhomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/str8cashhomie)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-democrats-should-talk-about-socialism/834950/167 "2019-11-05T02:39:57Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I think it’s good. I also think it’s socialist, as does, in my understanding, most of the planet. I don’t see much point in trying to pretend this isn’t so. I believe most countries that have universal healthcare don’t consider it socialist. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2019, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-democrats-should-talk-about-socialism/834950/168 "2019-11-05T03:03:48Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Lots of folks are already trying that - I’m proposing an additional argument that might be effective in some circumstances. I doubt it quite a bit. You know how the military generally only hires physically fit younger people? Should we make that a requirement for M4A? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-democrats-should-talk-about-socialism/834950.md?page=8)