# How "Deplorabe" are you? Do you fit in hilliarry' basket?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 14, 2016, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956 "2016-09-14T19:19:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/201 "2016-09-20T23:58:28Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Because the Reagan years were so blatantly racist. Using Reagan as an example doesn’t exactly help your case about Trump.

You’re referring to Reagan’s support for apartheid South Africa?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/202 "2016-09-21T01:02:21Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Because the Reagan years were so blatantly racist. Using Reagan as an example doesn’t exactly help your case about Trump.

Why not? They’re both actors, in Reagan’s case performing whatever script his handlers gave him, in Trump’s case doing improv comedy.

But none of what either ever said actually means anything.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/203 "2016-09-21T01:07:56Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Damn, you people are stupider than a box of rocks. Let’s try a little experiment.

Little experiments in the Pit are required to involve cardboard tubes. You know the rules.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/204 "2016-09-21T10:01:48Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> See, now I don’t understand the “anybody but Clinton” argument.

It’s simple, really. After literally decades of constant demonization of her by the Republicans, many people have come to believe she\* must\* be some kind of monster, and other people are emotionally invested in being “right” after all this time. They’ve built her up into a supervillain in their minds, someone who is obviously guilty of innumerable (mostly unnamed) crimes, yet somehow simultaneously immune to all prosecution.

Since she is absolutely evil in their eyes, in many cases literally a Satanic figure, naturally they think\* anyone\* would be better. They “know” she is one of the great monsters of history. Pointing out Trump’s incompetence and corruption doesn’t impress someone who thinks that Clinton regularly has people assassinated, or is an agent of the Devil, or a terrorist.

Trump could literally pull out a machine gun and massacre the crowd at his next speech, and he’d \*still \*be better than the demonic being they’ve built Clinton up into inside their own heads.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/205 "2016-09-21T16:03:00Z")

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By a margin of 30 to 23 (with the balance unsure), NC Trump voters favor [David Duke](http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_NC_92116.pdf)over Hillary Clinton.

I wonder how our local Trump supporters would choose in that poll.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/206 "2016-09-21T21:56:25Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Deliberate ignorance on your part, maybe?

Try reading the post for comprehension next time.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/207 "2016-09-21T23:59:11Z")

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Still waiting for an answer to that question…

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2016, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/208 "2016-09-22T00:16:10Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Try reading the post for comprehension next time.

Oh, he did. 😉

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2016, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/209 "2016-09-22T00:50:17Z")

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Box of rocks, 1.  
Clothahump, 0.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2016, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/210 "2016-09-22T01:10:15Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Try reading the post for comprehension next time.

Try posting with comprehension next time.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2016, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/211 "2016-09-22T01:22:51Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Try reading the post for comprehension next time.

You really are monumentally ignorant. [Trump has been accused of racism since the 1970s.](http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-donald-trump-housing-20160815-snap-story.html)

You are entirely incapable of posting without making yourself look like an idiot.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2016, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/212 "2016-09-23T20:27:02Z")

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If the OP thinks he’s deplorable, who am I to argue? He probably knows something the rest of us don’t

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/213 "2016-09-24T18:54:57Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Try posting with comprehension next time.

I did. But, as usual, the bonehead libs in here would rather yap and howl like a broke-dick dog than think.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/214 "2016-09-24T19:09:31Z")

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Again, **Clothy** , were you aware of the lawsuits and complaints against Trump regarding racist practices?

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/215 "2016-09-24T19:45:22Z")

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More importantly, **Clothy** , has the veil of ignorance been lifted from your eyes so that you now recognize that Trump has a long history of prejudice, as opposed to your statement that this is all new, made-up stuff?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/216 "2016-09-24T20:44:32Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> I did. But, as usual, the bonehead libs in here would rather yap and howl like a broke-dick dog than think.

So now you understand that you were totally mistaken in saying that Trump has never been accused of racism before? Now you understand that he was in fact accused of racism many times dating back to the 70s?

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**Author:** ![DonLogan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@DonLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DonLogan)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/217 "2016-09-24T21:28:08Z")

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You can’t even spell deplorable and you have 4 typos in the word Hillary’s. And it was bucket, not basket. That’s 6 mistakes in 10 words in the title.

That right there is fucking deplorable before you even get to any of the rest of your deplorable shit. We’re gonna need a bigger bucket.

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**Author:** ![Hector\_St\_Clare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@Hector\_St\_Clare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hector_St_Clare)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/218 "2016-09-24T22:00:18Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Yeah, in 2010, in the middle of the meltdown, people weren’t too happy.  
> While there is a sane person in the White House I can believe that they are more worried about immigration than an invasion. The numbers might change if Trump gets in and starts making noises like we would abandon them.  
> It appears, even from guide books and reading I’ve done, that native Estonians dislike the Russians who got planted there, and for instance there is no mixing in churches.  
> They may also feel a bit different economically now, taking a look at the mess in Russia.

I would use a more recent citation if I had one, but unfortunately Pew hasn’t surveyed eastern Europe since. The most recent poll on “do you think the fall of the Soviet Union was good or bad”, from 2013, excluded Estonia.

The question the survey asked was “which do you think is a bigger threat, Russian invasion or mass immigration”. As of now, _both_ are entirely theoretical threats. (Estonia has very few immigrants of any variety). Opinion might turn against Russia if the likelihood of Russian intervention became imminent, by the same token though opinion might turn even more strongly against Europe if Estonia started getting a lot of immigrants.

As for the Russian economy, the IMF expects the recession there to end by next year (and the recession itself has been smaller than originally expected).

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/219 "2016-09-25T00:49:34Z")

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Not to interrupt the **Clothahump** bashing here with some actual facts, but the “deplorables” comment doesn’t seem very contrversial among Americans.

[https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-gfk-poll-deplorables-sticks-him-not-her-073316868.html](https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-gfk-poll-deplorables-sticks-him-not-her-073316868.html)

30% of Americans think Trump supporters are generally worse than the average American. 15% think Hillary supporters are worse.

Even more telling, 51% think Hillary respects ordinary Americans. 38% think Trump does.

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**Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/220 "2016-09-25T05:33:49Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> I did.

No you didn’t. As always, you posted out of complete and utter ignorance.

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> But, as usual, the bonehead libs in here would rather yap and howl like a broke-dick dog than think.

But as usual, you won’t admit your ignorance. And you’ve never shown the slightest evidence of thinking yourself.

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