# How "Deplorabe" are you? Do you fit in hilliarry' basket? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 14, 2016, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956 "2016-09-14T19:19:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/81 "2016-09-15T14:28:49Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Well, since something like a third of Clinton supporters fall into this “deplorable” category, I think she meant that she didn’t want their votes and they should vote for Trump. Which state of affairs do you think is better for the country? A. Non-racists voting for a racist politician B. Racists voting for a non-racist politician Your pretty fucking dumb if you think racist politicians only want th vote of racists, and non-racist politicians only want the votes of non-racists. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/82 "2016-09-15T15:36:58Z")
> [@MacTech](#): > > I’m a firearm owner > I’m a strong defender of the 2nd amendment > I own some “scary” semiautomatic “weapons of war” > And I _WILL NOT_ give them up. You still have them? I was sure that they all guns had been confiscated long ago. The NRA promised that they would be if Obama was elected, and he was elected twice. So presumably all the guns are gone now. What is there left for Clinton to do? > [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > I’ve bought neither her nor Bill’s book… but I did once buy a tasty white wine from “Clinton Vineyards”. 😃 Please tell me this isn’t a euphemism for Monica Lewinski’s actions. ---
**Author:** ![Yumblie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/76d3ee/32.png) [@Yumblie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yumblie)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/83 "2016-09-15T15:45:51Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > Simple - they’re morons. They’re just simple farmers. They’re people of the land. The common clay of the new west. You know… ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/84 "2016-09-15T17:29:33Z")
This thread is hysterical. Tired ol’ Hillary attacked “the VOTERS”. Brilliant move on her part. :rolleyes: “They” can attack their fellow candidates, but attack the voters at your own peril. Tired ol’ Hillary claims that she’s going to fight for every vote but she wants the voters to know that she believes that half of them are irredeemable. \*irredeemable adjective - impossible to correct, improve, or change:\* > **[irredeemable](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/irredeemable)** > > 1. impossible to correct, improve, or change: 2. impossible to correct… While that definition certainly describes the yellow dog Democrats who comprise the Democrat collective, it’s not going to help her with the independents. And nobody wins the Presidency without the independents. Gary Johnson’s chances are looking better and better. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/85 "2016-09-15T17:35:43Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Gary Johnson’s chances are looking better and better. Yeah, he’s _doubled_, from 0.1 to 0.2! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/86 "2016-09-15T17:36:02Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > This thread is hysterical. Tired ol’ Hillary attacked “the VOTERS”. Brilliant move on her part. :rolleyes: “They” can attack their fellow candidates, but attack the voters at your own peril. > > Tired ol’ Hillary claims that she’s going to fight for every vote but she wants the voters to know that she believes that half of them are irredeemable. > > \*irredeemable > adjective > > - impossible to correct, improve, or change:\* > > [IRREDEEMABLE definition | Cambridge English Dictionary](http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/irredeemable) > > While that definition certainly describes the yellow dog Democrats who comprise the Democrat collective, it’s not going to help her with the independents. And nobody wins the Presidency without the independents. > > Gary Johnson’s chances are looking better and better. Why do you want Trump to win? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/87 "2016-09-15T18:32:34Z")
Because Hillary is old and tired! ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/88 "2016-09-15T18:34:36Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Gary Johnson’s chances are looking better and better. Gary “And what is Aleppo?” Johnson? That guy? I don’t think he has a shot in hell of being elected. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/89 "2016-09-15T18:45:50Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Why do you want Trump to win? Let’s just remember that **doorhinge** thinks that loading a shotgun in a crowded Walmart with live shells and racking it isn’t dangerous and unsafe behavior, it’s simply “a good way to try it [the shotgun] out.” There are many many things this guy has no business being near. Guns. Voting booths. Keyboards. Any kind of machinery. More than one inch of water in a bathtub while not being supervised by a guardian. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/90 "2016-09-15T18:51:44Z")
> [@Hector\_St\_Clare](#): > > (There are very few good concrete policy reasons to vote for Trump. Less likelihood of conflict with Russia, I know you are stretching to find good things about Trump, but this isn’t one of them. Just ask Neville Chamberlain. > [@](#): > > and tougher abortion policy, Nor this, maybe, since he was for abortion rights before he was against them. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2016, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/91 "2016-09-15T20:31:26Z")
> [@Hector\_St\_Clare](#): > > That doesn’t mean I’m going to vote for Clinton, although I might (her foreign policy is the deal breaker for me, and she is going to win this state anyway, so more likely I vote for either Jill Stein or Darrell Castle). But just to underscore what you said: even if you do hold ‘deplorable’ views, there are lots of good reasons you might still vote for Hillary Clinton. Over at Vox, Matt Yglassias goes over Clinton’s foreign policy. Honestly it’s not that different from Obama’s: they both support the arms control deal with Iran for example. [Hillary Clinton’s neoconservative fan club, explained | Vox](http://www.vox.com/2016/8/17/12494052/hillary-clinton-neocons) Trump is a foreign policy disaster in the making. He is soft on NATO. He basically wants to turn the US military into a protection racket. He kept asking his military briefers why they never use A-bombs. Very hawkish in practice. [Hillary Clinton rolled out the anti-Trump argument that could deliver a landslide | Vox](http://www.vox.com/2016/6/2/11843550/hillary-clinton-trump-risk) Fred Kaplan, national security expert: [http://www.slate.com/articles/news\_and\_politics/war\_stories/2016/08/a\_trump\_win\_would\_lead\_to\_a\_nuclear\_arms\_race\_and\_a\_collapse\_of\_sanctions.htm](http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2016/08/a_trump_win_would_lead_to_a_nuclear_arms_race_and_a_collapse_of_sanctions.htm) [INDENT][INDENT] Donald Trump, on the other hand, grasps none of these things—not the history, not the concepts, not the tools or limits or creative possibilities of power. He is not so much an isolationist as a unilateralist. It’s easy to envision him barging into a foreign war, driven as much by avenging some personal slight as pursuing a national interest—and, in the process, waving off help from others, believing that he can win alone (or that he alone can win) with the right combination of firepower and rhetoric. Trump is likely to wreck the few remnants of the post–World War II order that sustain America’s influence. Even if he didn’t start a war, or escalate one with no notion of how to end it, he is likely—judging from what he says—to wreck the few remnants of the post–World War II order that sustain America’s influence and its broad network of (mostly) democratic allies. [/INDENT][/INDENT] Frankly, foreign policy is a good reason to deliver the strongest vote against Trump possible. ---
**Author:** ![eulalia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eulalia/32/457_2.png) [@eulalia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eulalia)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/92 "2016-09-16T00:22:19Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > The streets are extended gutters and the gutters are full of blood and when the drains finally scab over, all the vermin will drown. > > The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout “Save us!”… and I’ll look down and whisper "You’re deplorable.” This is the one that made me cackle. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/93 "2016-09-16T01:51:01Z")
A ten-headed dragon and a Whore of Babylon would fit in nicely. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/94 "2016-09-16T03:18:29Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Over at Vox, Matt Yglassias goes over Clinton’s foreign policy. Honestly it’s not that different from Obama’s: they both support the arms control deal with Iran for example. [Hillary Clinton’s neoconservative fan club, explained | Vox](http://www.vox.com/2016/8/17/12494052/hillary-clinton-neocons) > > Trump is a foreign policy disaster in the making. He is soft on NATO. He basically wants to turn the US military into a protection racket. He kept asking his military briefers why they never use A-bombs. Very hawkish in practice. [Hillary Clinton rolled out the anti-Trump argument that could deliver a landslide | Vox](http://www.vox.com/2016/6/2/11843550/hillary-clinton-trump-risk) > Fred Kaplan, national security expert: [http://www.slate.com/articles/news\_and\_politics/war\_stories/2016/08/a\_trump\_win\_would\_lead\_to\_a\_nuclear\_arms\_race\_and\_a\_collapse\_of\_sanctions.htm](http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2016/08/a_trump_win_would_lead_to_a_nuclear_arms_race_and_a_collapse_of_sanctions.htm) > > [INDENT][INDENT] Donald Trump, on the other hand, grasps none of these things—not the history, not the concepts, not the tools or limits or creative possibilities of power. He is not so much an isolationist as a unilateralist. It’s easy to envision him barging into a foreign war, driven as much by avenging some personal slight as pursuing a national interest—and, in the process, waving off help from others, believing that he can win alone (or that he alone can win) with the right combination of firepower and rhetoric. > > Trump is likely to wreck the few remnants of the post–World War II order that sustain America’s influence. > > Even if he didn’t start a war, or escalate one with no notion of how to end it, he is likely—judging from what he says—to wreck the few remnants of the post–World War II order that sustain America’s influence and its broad network of (mostly) democratic allies. [/INDENT][/INDENT] > > Frankly, foreign policy is a good reason to deliver the strongest vote against Trump possible. Comparing Clinton to Obama based on what she says tells us nothing, since what she says is for the purposes of running for President. Matt Yglesias knows better than that. Clinton’s record tells us a lot more about the kind of foreign policy she’ll have, and it coincides with Obama’s first term foreign policy more than his second term. More interventionist, less likely to sign onto deals for the sake of getting any deal. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/95 "2016-09-16T03:24:51Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Comparing Clinton to Obama based on what she says tells us nothing, since what she says is for the purposes of running for President. Matt Yglesias knows better than that. > > Clinton’s record tells us a lot more about the kind of foreign policy she’ll have, and it coincides with Obama’s first term foreign policy more than his second term. More interventionist, less likely to sign onto deals for the sake of getting any deal. So tell us about Your Guy’s foreign policy! (You keep _claiming_ you aren’t voting for Trump, but he’s Your Party’s candidate.) ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/96 "2016-09-16T03:27:15Z")
I have no idea what his foreign policy is. Clinton’s always been grade A on foreign policy for me, and I look forward to Congress making her a solely foreign policy President. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/97 "2016-09-16T04:03:07Z")
You \*want \*a return to the Republican policies that caused the collapse we’re still digging out of? Whatever for? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/98 "2016-09-16T04:40:57Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I have no idea what his foreign policy is. Neither does he. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/99 "2016-09-16T05:07:54Z")
Hey Hector, foreign policy matters, right? What are your thoughts on Trump wanting to respond to taunts with a _literal act of war_? How does that fit into the picture, exactly? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/100 "2016-09-16T06:06:44Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I have no idea what his foreign policy is. [Kim Jong-Il] Nobody does! [/kji] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956.md?page=6)