# How "Deplorabe" are you? Do you fit in hilliarry' basket? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 14, 2016, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956 "2016-09-14T19:19:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/141 "2016-09-16T19:23:27Z")
Hey, be kind to the unhinged one. It’s obviously trying to rationalize supporting the biggest Republican con artist since Nixon, if not ever. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/142 "2016-09-16T19:29:55Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Why is tired ol’ Hillary still lying to the voters/public every chance she gets? I think it’s because she counts on people like yourself to babble endlessly in her defense. Awwww…poor poor Triggered Trumpling. So butthurt. So very sad. I LOVE your sweaty desperation and impotent rage, though. Makes me laugh. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/143 "2016-09-16T19:35:04Z")
Credit where credit is due, however: **doorhinge** was deplorable long before it was cool. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/144 "2016-09-16T19:49:57Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Hey, be kind to the unhinged one. It’s obviously trying to rationalize supporting the biggest Republican con artist since Nixon, if not ever. It’s sad that tired ol’ Hillary’s poll numbers dropped after she chose to attack the voters/public with her deplorable comment. Then again, maybe it’s not so sad. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/145 "2016-09-16T20:05:42Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Hahahaha. Trump was, and is, a business man. He is the kind of businessman that will stiff you. > **[Reports: Donald Trump stiffs contractors | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/10/politics/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-reports/)** > > Donald Trump has a pattern of not paying or underpaying bills to everyone from waiters to painters and carpenters to a banking firm – and was even facing foreclosure at the Trump National Doral Miami golf club, according to exhaustive new reports. And now he will stiff America if we let him. > [@doorhinge](#): > > Tired ol’ Hillary was in-charge of state secrets and she handled them poorly according to the FBI. She also had a hand in destroying emails, phones, and evidence. Plus the attempted to cover ups of her repeated fuckups. You don’t consider those to be serious lies. :rolleyes: The FBI did not, so I defer to them, and what Powell actually did tell. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/146 "2016-09-16T20:21:39Z")
Jeebus, could we \*\*\*please \*\*\*get back to the election? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2016, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/147 "2016-09-16T20:28:17Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > It’s sad that tired ol’ Hillary’s poll numbers dropped after she chose to attack the voters/public with her deplorable comment. Then again, maybe it’s not so sad. 😃 You like polls, eh? [A national survey back in May](http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_National_51016.pdf) (PDF) found that Trump supporters believe:[ul]Obama is Muslim (65%). [li]Obama was not born in the US (59%)[/li][li]vaccines can lead to autism (27%; 12 points higher than non-supporters/unsure).[/ul][/li] [An earlier poll of South Carolina voters from the same outfit found that Trump supporters believe](https://thinkprogress.org/is-hillary-clinton-right-about-trump-supporters-this-is-what-the-polling-data-says-2b37625a1df3#.zgiet58pd):[ul]those who identify as homosexual should be barred from entering the country (35%, nearly twice as many as any other). [\*]in White supremacy (16%, the only supporters even coming close had yet to decide who to support).[/ul] ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2016, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/148 "2016-09-17T14:31:50Z")
Well, having 13 “experts” tell me my thought processes are so whack doodle that I should be on permanent disability and taking medication for it is pretty deplorable. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2016, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/149 "2016-09-17T14:36:07Z")
Hillery really missed her chance. After she made her remark, a shitload of Trumpettes took the stage to declare that they were proudly “deplorable”. Imagine what would have happened if she had used the word “babyfuckers”. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2016, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/150 "2016-09-17T15:28:53Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > … Imagine what would have happened if she had used the word “babyfuckers”… R Kelly suddenly gets interested in politics? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/151 "2016-09-17T18:11:11Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > …Obama was not born in the US (59%)… Gotta wonder how those true believer’s will react when their Fearless Champion waves the French Battle Flag (white, with chicken rampant) and flees. Brave, brave, brave Sir Donald! ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2016, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/152 "2016-09-17T19:40:08Z")
> [@Hector\_St\_Clare](#): > > **Voyager** and **Measure for Measure** , if I thought the Russian intervention in the Ukraine was morally analogous to the Germans’ in Czechoslovakia, I might find that convincing. I think your analogy to Chamberlain is correct in one sense: acquiescing to the partition of the Ukraine is going to embolden anti-liberal and pro-Russian forces in other Eastern European countries, just like acquiescing to the division of Czechoslovakia emboldened Fascists. In this case I think that’s a good thing (I’m not a liberal or a capitalist, and I think the kind of state the DNR/LNR are trying to build is a better alternative to liberal-democratic capitalism) so _on this issue_ I think Trump is better. In general, I think NATO, the post-WW II ‘international order’, etc., are things that I reject, so the idea that Trump threatens them isn’t a good argument against him. > > As for abortion, I don’t know that Trump will be particularly good on the issue, but I know Mrs. Clinton will be terrible. And yes, I think threatening war over a taunt is insane and not what I want to see in a world leader. That’s why I’m not voting for Trump either (if I even end up voting). > > Jill Stein and Darrell Castle are both consistent isolationists. She’s better on economics, he’s better on social/cultural issues, but I both find them acceptable on foreign policy (largely because they’re in the ‘do nothing’ camp over the Ukraine, and both opposed to NATO). My comment about Chamberlain was more around the idea that appeasing despots will make them your friends. However in both cases the aggressor was claiming places where they had ethnic majorities and which might have voted to go back. NATO has helped prevent major global conflicts for 70 years, not a bad record, and has bound together nations that have been at each others throats for centuries. Perhaps in an ideal world we can do better. We don’t live in an ideal world. MAD is a terrible strategy, except less terrible than any other. I invite you to visit the Occupation Museum in Talinn Estonia, to see what Eastern Europeans think of Russians. (Hint: slightly worse than Nazis.) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2016, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/153 "2016-09-17T21:59:38Z")
Nit pick: Estonia is not an Eastern European country. Northern European. And the capitol is Tallinn. (Those Finns and Estonians can never have too many consonants in their words!) ---
**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2016, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/154 "2016-09-17T22:24:37Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Nit pick: Estonia is not an Eastern European country. Northern European. > And the capitol is Tallinn. (Those Finns and Estonians can never have too many consonants in their words!) They’ve been trying to align themselves with the Nordic countries, but it’s a stretch to call them Northern European. They’re between Russia and Latvia, that’s Eastern European by most people’s definition. ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2016, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/155 "2016-09-17T22:59:48Z")
It’s more correct to say Estonia is between Latvia and _Finland_. Tallinn is just 50 miles across the Bay of Finland from Helsinki. It’s a few minutes of latitude more northern than Stockholm. It’s more northern than the northernmost point of Denmark. I’d say Estonia is Baltic, which by most people’s definition is Northern European. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2016, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/156 "2016-09-17T23:58:57Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Nit pick: Estonia is not an Eastern European country. Northern European. > And the capitol is Tallinn. (Those Finns and Estonians can never have too many consonants in their words!) The capitol of Estonia is [Stenbock House](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stenbock_House). The capit_ **a** _l of Estonia is Tallinn. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2016, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/157 "2016-09-18T01:19:05Z")
> [@](#): > > Racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic I don’t believe I am any of those things. Maybe I am occasionally prejudiced and categorise people in stereotypes. I am nice and safe and boring. ---
**Author:** ![Hector\_St\_Clare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@Hector\_St\_Clare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hector_St_Clare)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2016, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/158 "2016-09-18T07:19:08Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > My comment about Chamberlain was more around the idea that appeasing despots will make them your friends. However in both cases the aggressor was claiming places where they had ethnic majorities and which might have voted to go back. > NATO has helped prevent major global conflicts for 70 years, not a bad record, and has bound together nations that have been at each others throats for centuries. Perhaps in an ideal world we can do better. We don’t live in an ideal world. MAD is a terrible strategy, except less terrible than any other. > I invite you to visit the Occupation Museum in Talinn Estonia, to see what Eastern Europeans think of Russians. (Hint: slightly worse than Nazis.) LOL. You do realize, right, that (at least as of six years ago- haven’t been able to find a more recent poll) most people in eastern Europe thought that their countries (as a whole, distinct from them as individuals) were better off under communism? [http://www.pewglobal.org/2009/11/02/end-of-communism-cheered-but-now-with-more-reservations/communism220px/](http://www.pewglobal.org/2009/11/02/end-of-communism-cheered-but-now-with-more-reservations/communism220px/) Also, most Estonians nowadays think their biggest existential threat is EU-mediated immigration, not Russian invasion: survey-2-3-of-estonian-citizens-see-refugee-crisis-as-bigger-threat-than-russia ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2016, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/159 "2016-09-18T07:40:41Z")
Lithuania has potato. Estonia is jealous. Latvia sad. Lithuania has statue of Frank Zappa, so Lithuania cool _and_ has potato. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956/160 "2016-09-19T05:05:44Z")
> [@Hector\_St\_Clare](#): > > LOL. You do realize, right, that (at least as of six years ago- haven’t been able to find a more recent poll) most people in eastern Europe thought that their countries (as a whole, distinct from them as individuals) were better off under communism? > > [http://www.pewglobal.org/2009/11/02/end-of-communism-cheered-but-now-with-more-reservations/communism220px/](http://www.pewglobal.org/2009/11/02/end-of-communism-cheered-but-now-with-more-reservations/communism220px/) > > Also, most Estonians nowadays think their biggest existential threat is EU-mediated immigration, not Russian invasion: > > survey-2-3-of-estonian-citizens-see-refugee-crisis-as-bigger-threat-than-russia Yeah, in 2010, in the middle of the meltdown, people weren’t too happy. While there is a sane person in the White House I can believe that they are more worried about immigration than an invasion. The numbers might change if Trump gets in and starts making noises like we would abandon them. It appears, even from guide books and reading I’ve done, that native Estonians dislike the Russians who got planted there, and for instance there is no mixing in churches. They may also feel a bit different economically now, taking a look at the mess in Russia. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-deplorabe-are-you-do-you-fit-in-hilliarry-basket/765956.md?page=9)