If Gollum could get out, Gandalf can get in.
Well, we know how Gollum got out, so I guess the question was whether Gandalf was willing to go up against Shelob to do the same thing.
In any case, I’m guessing plan A was not “lets let Sam fight the giant Spider Monster”.
Unfortunately, such things are no longer true. These days, Chuck Norris claims the One Ring is an anti-American Communist Plot and then wanders off and forgets what he was talking about.
Of course God can simply walk into Mordor. God can do anything. That is why that call him “God” rather than “Barry.”
Barry?
Hashem, perhaps, Avinu, or Adonai. But Barry?
Jeez.
Ilúvatar!
Are you sure you guys are in the right thread? :dubious:
It was a topical joke.
Want another hint?
Or Mr. President.
ETA: deleted, on grounds of not being funny, then readded, since Skald replied before I edited.
Well, I knew YOU’D get it. We’re the only ones here who eat grits.
Are you using that crystal ball again? Supper at Oak’s Grove tonight is a bacon, egg, & cheese sammich, with a side of grits.
The youngest Rhymers refer to that as a heart attack sandwich, Oak.
You eat Liberal Canadians? :eek:
If God didn’t want my arteries clogged, He would not have put cholesterol in eggs, or fat in bacon.
Sure, if she’s willing, but that has nothing to do with food.
I thought going through Moria was plan B, after the mountains proved impassible.
Book Gandalf wanted to take the mines to basically drop out of sight.
There were versions of Return of the King that came with a topo style map of Gondor and Mordor, drawn by CRT and approved by JRRT. Looking at that there are several likely looking passes. In fact if you look at where the Poros river goes into the Ephel Duath it looks like the mountains have a large broad valley pass, with hardly any elevation at all. So finding a walkable path may not be a problem.
But what was it that Gollum said? “All ways are watched yes. Of course they are… This may be least watched.” The problem is finding a way that they can sneak through. Given Gandalf’s and Aragorn’s history, I’m certain each had an idea or two on where a crossing could be made. I expect they intended to scout the best possible route when they had gotten there. They hadn’t decided on a plan on how to cross the Misty Mountains until they reached Eregion after all.
Gandalf was afraid of going through Moria but thought it would probably be necessary. Aragorn wanted to go over specifially because he had had a foreseeing that Gandalf would not live through it.
Aragorn specifically says that he did not think Gandalf had a specific plan after Lorien. This may seem foolish, but I think it was the right approach; he had to see the situation on the ground to make a judgment, and would not wish to commit himself emotionally to a strategem that would prove unwise, or get target fixation.
Also bear in mind that it was never meant for all nine to go all the way to Mordor. Had Gandalf lived to make it through Lorien, I think he would have taken Frodo, himself, and Gimli into Moria, while Aragorn and the rest went to Minas Tirith.
Sure, knock yourself out.