True, but the point I was making was the lack of intellectual challenge. Sudoku is essentially a mechanical process, eliminating the possibilities one by one: once you’ve grasped the rules, there’s no “difficulty” as such, it’s just that some take longer to grind your way through than others. Quick crosswords are not hugely different - the answer is going to be one of a limited number of answers, only one of which will work, so you can elimnate them in a similar fashion.
A good cryptic crossword, on the other hand, can tie your brain up in knots until you approach the clue (or, often, the answer sneaks up on you) from a completely unexpected direction. That’s a puzzle.
Right, one of a limited number of words. And clearly there are different possibilities (mete/dish out). I don’t think you’ve done enough of the “quick” crosswords to say you know all about them. On Mondays they can be a bit of a grind, but a good Saturday puzzle has exactly the same effect as your cryptics:
Also, there are some terrifically difficult Sudoku puzzles out there, where you have to work through several rounds of conditionals to work out that there’s a 5 in the corner box.
By the way bouv, you might want to try to play the daily Tribune Media crossword online at the LA Times Crossword Site. You can play it in “Regular Mode”, which will prompt you if you miss a letter, and will give you clues if you want/need it. After you’ve done that for a few months, you’ll know most of the easy repeater clues, and can move up to Master Level (no clues or hints), and Super Master Level (in pen, on paper).
Alright, then we’re no longer tired of it. I remember now that you were leaving, but I didn’t know it was so long ago. I guess I’ll just have to write an angry letter to Will Shortz (a la Word Play). “You are a sick, sick, sick, sick, sick man. Sincerely,…”