# How did Lyndon Johnson get rich? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [February 17, 2004, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-lyndon-johnson-get-rich/229611 "2004-02-17T04:31:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![syncrolecyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f08c70/32.png) [@syncrolecyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/syncrolecyne)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2004, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-lyndon-johnson-get-rich/229611/1 "2004-02-17T04:31:38Z")
While looking at an article that claimed that if John Kerry were the president, he’d be the third richest man to ever hold that office, I was far more surprised by Lyndon Johnson’s high showing. From what I know, he was briefly a school teacher, and then he became a congressional aide and then a congressman. During World War II he recieved a Naval commission and then entered the senate after the war. He eventually became his party’s leader in the senate, Vice President in 1961 and … the rest is history. Surely that would account for a comfortable life, (he did have a sizeable ranch) but Forbes magazine has him ahead of the Bushes and the Roosevelts? What did he do? Charge a million dollars per bribe in the senate? Only Andrew Jackson, John F. Kennedy, and George Washington are ranked higher. Of course 18th and 19th century wealth is hard to compare with modern wealth - but LBJ is apparently far richer than I would have ever imagined. The article: [http://www.forbes.com/2004/02/13/cx\_da\_0213kerry.html](http://www.forbes.com/2004/02/13/cx_da_0213kerry.html) ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2004, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-lyndon-johnson-get-rich/229611/2 "2004-02-17T04:34:39Z")
Maybe someone can supply the exact details, but I believe it was in the radio business. ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2004, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-lyndon-johnson-get-rich/229611/3 "2004-02-17T04:35:56Z")
Radio _station_ business, that is. Didn’t mean to imply that LBJ was selling AM transistor radios. ---
**Author:** ![syncrolecyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f08c70/32.png) [@syncrolecyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/syncrolecyne)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2004, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-lyndon-johnson-get-rich/229611/4 "2004-02-17T04:40:01Z")
I since found out (from a link on the article) that he had the only TV station in the Austin market for quite some time…still that doesn’t explain to me how he could be in plutocrat territory. Years ago I recall someone calling into a program (Larry King?) claiming he made a ‘killing’ from the armaments industry while escalating the Vietnam War; but it sounded like a crackpot conspiracy. ---
**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2004, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-lyndon-johnson-get-rich/229611/5 "2004-02-17T05:24:50Z")
Lyndon Johnson made his fortune by turning his small Austin radio station into a regional powerhouse. In time, the Texas Broadcasting Company owned, at least in part, nine radio and television stations as well as interests in cable television. The Wall Street Journal won a Pulitzer Prize in 1965 for documenting the unusually long series of favorable FCC decisions that made him a multi-millionaire. ---
**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2004, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-lyndon-johnson-get-rich/229611/6 "2004-02-17T05:26:19Z")
[More info](http://www.dustbury.com/archives/000771.html) on the radio stations. The company was worth $105 million when the family sold it last year. And that was after they sold off the TV station to Fox for presumably big bucks. ---
**Author:** ![Renob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8c91f0/32.png) [@Renob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renob)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2004, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-lyndon-johnson-get-rich/229611/7 "2004-02-17T19:27:35Z")
You should check out Robert A. Caro’s _Years of Lyndon Johnson_ volumes. There are three out there right now: _Path to Power, Means of Ascent,_ and \* Master of the Senate\*. I can’t say for sure how much Caro gets into this (I only finished the first volume yesterday), but I’m sure he does. His first volume was amazingly detailed and researched, and it paints a far-from-flattering portrait of Johnson and his rise to political power. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2004, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-lyndon-johnson-get-rich/229611/8 "2004-02-17T21:19:19Z")
a quicker picture may be found in ‘A Texan looks at Lyndon’, from the 60s. in short, his point was that lbj created a monopoly with his friends in the FCC bykeeping others from buying licenses or revoking the ones they did have. lbj went in and bought cheap. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2004, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-lyndon-johnson-get-rich/229611/9 "2004-02-17T21:27:26Z")
If I recall correctly, all the business holdings were in his wife’s name, so technically it was family, not personal wealth. Not that it much matters. A lot of Kerry’s wealth comes from his wfe, too. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2004, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-lyndon-johnson-get-rich/229611/10 "2004-02-17T21:38:21Z")
In addition to the radio stations, Johnson benefitted enormously from the contracts awarded by NASA (to build the Houston Manned Speceflight Center-which originally was going to be in Cambridge, MA), and the Vietnam War (general Dynamics made billions in aircraft contracts). Johnson’s family became near-billionaires as the result of these. However, Lyndon drank himself to death in 1968…presumably he had a guilty conscience. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2004, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-lyndon-johnson-get-rich/229611/11 "2004-02-17T21:43:56Z")
He didn’t die in 1968, he died in 1973. Unless I’m missing something here. ---
**Author:** ![cornflakes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9d8465/32.png) [@cornflakes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cornflakes)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2004, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-lyndon-johnson-get-rich/229611/12 "2004-02-17T23:19:25Z")
LBJ died in '73. He only died politically in '68. Along with KLBJ/KNOW and NASA, LBJ surely got kickbacks from the infrastructure work done in Texas from the '30s to the '60s, stuff like rural electrification, dam building and road work. I think Caro documents LBJ’s relationship with (George?) Brown of Brown and Root, the company that got the bids for a lot of this work. ---
**Author:** ![Billdo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billdo/32/315_2.png) [@Billdo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billdo)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2004, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-lyndon-johnson-get-rich/229611/13 "2004-02-18T12:48:11Z")
> [@cornflakes](#): > > I think Caro documents LBJ’s relationship with (George?) Brown of Brown and Root, the company that got the bids for a lot of this work. Would the Brown and Root you’re discussing be related to the Haliburton subsidary Kellogg Brown & Root that currently has many of the reconstruction contracts in Iraq? ---
**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2004, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-lyndon-johnson-get-rich/229611/14 "2004-02-18T12:50:27Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > In addition to the radio stations, Johnson benefitted enormously from the contracts awarded by NASA (to build the Houston Manned Speceflight Center-which originally was going to be in Cambridge, MA) Do you know where I can read more about this in particular? It sounds interesting. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![cornflakes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9d8465/32.png) [@cornflakes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cornflakes)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2004, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-lyndon-johnson-get-rich/229611/15 "2004-02-18T13:21:40Z")
> [@Billdo](#): > > Would the Brown and Root you’re discussing be related to the Haliburton subsidary Kellogg Brown & Root that currently has many of the reconstruction contracts in Iraq? No idea… ---
**Author:** ![plnnr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@plnnr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plnnr)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2004, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-lyndon-johnson-get-rich/229611/16 "2004-02-18T13:28:21Z")
The communication businesses were in Lady Bird’s name is because it was her family that started the businesses in the first place (IIRC, her maiden name was Taylor). Johnson only became involved in the communications business when he married into an already wealthy family. ---
**Author:** ![Renob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8c91f0/32.png) [@Renob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renob)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2004, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-lyndon-johnson-get-rich/229611/17 "2004-04-05T14:24:40Z")
> [@plnnr](#): > > The communication businesses were in Lady Bird’s name is because it was her family that started the businesses in the first place (IIRC, her maiden name was Taylor). Johnson only became involved in the communications business when he married into an already wealthy family. Actually, this isn’t true. I just finished Caro’s second volume on the life of Lyndon Johnson, _Means of Ascent_, and in it he extensively documents Johnson’s dealings with this station. His wife bought a low-power radio station (though it’s clear she only did this because Lyndon himself didn’t want his name on it; Lyndon was behind the whole deal and was very involved in its inner workings), and after the Johnsons owned it, the FCC suddenly approved its long-stalled application to increase its power and move down the dial (which meant it could reach more areas of Texas and be accesible to more listeners). CBS (I think) made it an affiliate after Johnson visited their headquarters in New York and the station made a lot of revenue from advertising bought by LBJ’s friends in the district. In short, Lady Bird’s family did not start the business and it succeeded solely through Johnson’s political connections. If he hadn’t been a Congressman, he would never have been able to get the FCC to approve the petitions, get CBS to give make the station an affiliate, or to get the amount of advertising for the station. Basically, Johnson abused the powers of his office to make himself rich. ---
**Author:** ![paperbackwriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@paperbackwriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paperbackwriter)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2004, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-lyndon-johnson-get-rich/229611/18 "2004-04-05T16:18:11Z")
> [@Billdo](#): > > Would the Brown and Root you’re discussing be related to the Haliburton subsidary Kellogg Brown & Root that currently has many of the reconstruction contracts in Iraq? Yes, see, for example, [here](http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/gao/d03695.pdf) or [here](http://www.halliburton.com/gov_ops/sl0258.jsp): > [@](#): > > KBR Government Operations provides a diverse range of services to all branches of the United States military…We became military contractors in 1942 when Brown Shipbuilding Company built the first of 359 ships for the US Navy at our Greens Bayou Fabrication Yard, Houston, Texas. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2004, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-lyndon-johnson-get-rich/229611/19 "2004-04-05T16:36:17Z")
OK, so LBJ made his money by monopolizing the Texas radio market and by arranging for fat government contracts to be awarded to companies he was affiliated with. It’s generally accepted that the Kennedys made their money by bootlegging during Prohibition. What about other first families? Where did the Bush family’s money come from? ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2004, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-lyndon-johnson-get-rich/229611/20 "2004-04-05T18:37:52Z")
> [@Diceman](#): > > It’s generally accepted that the Kennedys made their money by bootlegging during Prohibition. No, that is not generally accepted by historians. Joseph Kennedy was a very successful securities trader in the 1920s, back when many things that are illegal today in securities trading were still legal. [Ask Cecil.](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_159.html) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-lyndon-johnson-get-rich/229611.md?page=2)