# How Did Occupy D.C. Protesters Respond to a Table Full of Job Applications?

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**Created:** [November 3, 2011, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-occupy-d-c-protesters-respond-to-a-table-full-of-job-applications/601795 "2011-11-03T23:47:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-occupy-d-c-protesters-respond-to-a-table-full-of-job-applications/601795/21 "2011-11-04T16:53:57Z")

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So they spoke with three dozen protesters and got two applications? The sounds about as valid as using one of Leno’s Jaywalking bits to show the current intellectual state of America.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-occupy-d-c-protesters-respond-to-a-table-full-of-job-applications/601795/22 "2011-11-04T17:05:45Z")

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> [@Dangerosa](#):
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> Paper applications?
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> Do many companies even take paper applications?

Not usually, but how is a CEO supposed to wipe his ass with an electronic application?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-occupy-d-c-protesters-respond-to-a-table-full-of-job-applications/601795/23 "2011-11-04T17:11:18Z")

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I was going to say “What - no James O’Keefe?” but he’s up at OWS in New York, [“producing a video”](http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/james-o-keefe-visits-occupy-wall-street-says-150947025.html). Which I’m sure will be just as objective, accurate and truthful as his previous efforts, although probably without the fuzzy handcuffs and pimp attire.

But fear not, the lying provocateur right-wing fringe have their [Man in DC](http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/reporter-incites-occupy-d-c-riot-write-180750896.html) too, apparently inciting a riot to discredit the protestors.

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> According to Howley, he was aggressive in the march on the museum because, "in the absence of ideological uniformity … their only chance, as I saw it, was to push the envelope and go bold.
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> Howley concluded that the protesters “lack the nerve to confront authority.”
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> “From estimates within the protest,” he boasts, “only ten people were pepper-sprayed, and as far as I could tell I was the only one who got inside the museum. … I deserved to get a face full of high-grade pepper, and the guards who sprayed me acted with more courage than I saw from any of the protesters. If you’re looking for something to commend these days in America, start with those guards.”

Twat.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-occupy-d-c-protesters-respond-to-a-table-full-of-job-applications/601795/24 "2011-11-04T17:19:33Z")

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> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#):
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> I think they need to re-evaluate their conclusions.

😕 They got exactly the conclusions they set out to get—why on earth would the re-evaluate them?

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**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-occupy-d-c-protesters-respond-to-a-table-full-of-job-applications/601795/25 "2011-11-04T18:26:21Z")

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nvm

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**Author:** ![kimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f0a364/32.png) [@kimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kimera)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-occupy-d-c-protesters-respond-to-a-table-full-of-job-applications/601795/26 "2011-11-04T18:41:51Z")

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I’m currently searching for a job and most of the job ‘offers’ I’ve come across are attempts to steal my personal information. I wouldn’t fill out these applications.

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**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-occupy-d-c-protesters-respond-to-a-table-full-of-job-applications/601795/27 "2011-11-04T20:28:34Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> But fear not, the lying provocateur right-wing fringe have their [Man in DC](http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/reporter-incites-occupy-d-c-riot-write-180750896.html) too, apparently inciting a riot to discredit the protestors.Twat.

He seems to be confused as to what a reporter is. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-occupy-d-c-protesters-respond-to-a-table-full-of-job-applications/601795/28 "2011-11-04T22:09:09Z")

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You do know The Blaze is Glenn Beck’s “news” site, don’t you?

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**Author:** ![Kaio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c68b51/32.png) [@Kaio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaio)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-occupy-d-c-protesters-respond-to-a-table-full-of-job-applications/601795/29 "2011-11-05T04:04:16Z")

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> [@](#):
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> “From estimates within the protest,” he boasts, “only ten people were pepper-sprayed, and as far as I could tell I was the only one who got inside the museum. … I deserved to get a face full of high-grade pepper, and the guards who sprayed me acted with more courage than I saw from any of the protesters. If you’re looking for something to commend these days in America, start with those guards.”

He’s not quite grasping the meaning of “non-violent protest” is he?

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**Author:** ![BeaMyra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2bfe46/32.png) [@BeaMyra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeaMyra)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-occupy-d-c-protesters-respond-to-a-table-full-of-job-applications/601795/30 "2011-11-06T11:52:52Z")

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The problem is not jobs, there are lots of them unless you’re over 50 or disabled. The problem is the type of jobs. Most companies have simply scaled back. I work in H/R and I constantly see help wanted ads every place and at retails and fast foods stores. What they fail to point out, is most of these jobs are two or three days a week at minimum wage.

Thus when you get one of them, you may work one week 16 hours the next 24 hours. The schedules vary week to week so you can’t even get a second job to compliment it because you don’t know what hours you’re working the next week.

It’s really a problem of underemployment. In my company we have learned to do quite nicely with a lot of part time workers under 25 hours a week.

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-occupy-d-c-protesters-respond-to-a-table-full-of-job-applications/601795/31 "2011-11-06T16:20:26Z")

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I don’t know that many people who have gone to the Occupy protests, but of the 3 I do know, they all have jobs.

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-occupy-d-c-protesters-respond-to-a-table-full-of-job-applications/601795/32 "2011-11-06T16:25:35Z")

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Are we supposed to be impressed that people not acting in good faith placed job applications at an occupy rally, and weren’t taken seriously?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-occupy-d-c-protesters-respond-to-a-table-full-of-job-applications/601795/33 "2011-11-06T17:22:47Z")

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> [@BeaMyra](#):
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> The problem is not jobs, there are lots of them unless you’re over 50 or disabled.

No, there are (last I heard) 4.6 unemployed people for every job vacancy.

> [@](#):
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> The problem is the type of jobs. \<snip\> I constantly see help wanted ads every place and at retails and fast foods stores. What they fail to point out, is most of these jobs are two or three days a week at minimum wage.
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> Thus when you get one of them, you may work one week 16 hours the next 24 hours. The schedules vary week to week so you can’t even get a second job to compliment it because you don’t know what hours you’re working the next week.

Not that this isn’t a problem as well. The irritating thing is, they’re doing it because they can, rather than for any reasons of efficiency. You can’t tell me that McDonald’s knows a whole lot more about what workers they’ll need at what times in a given week when they hand out the schedules the week before, than they did three weeks earlier. They could schedule the vast majority of their part-timers for regular shifts if they wanted to, so that those people could get a second part-time job somewhere else.

Obviously any guesses about motivations are exactly that, but it just seems that a lot of this shit is about keeping the upper hand. Class warfare, as waged by those on top, ain’t pretty.

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**Author:** ![doreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@doreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doreen)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2011, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-occupy-d-c-protesters-respond-to-a-table-full-of-job-applications/601795/34 "2011-11-07T00:26:59Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Not that this isn’t a problem as well. The irritating thing is, they’re doing it because they can, rather than for any reasons of efficiency. You can’t tell me that McDonald’s knows a whole lot more about what workers they’ll need at what times in a given week when they hand out the schedules the week before, than they did three weeks earlier. They could schedule the vast majority of their part-timers for regular shifts if they wanted to, so that those people could get a second part-time job somewhere else.

That assumes that most of their part-time workers want regular shifts , and that’s a big assumption. I worked that type of part-time job when I was in college, and my kids are working them now. Unlike many other jobs , they need a certain number of people for each shift. At my job, if I take Friday off, my work sits and waits for me until Monday. But in restaurants/retail etc, if Donna , who usually works from 4-12 Friday night needs a particular Friday night off, someone else is going to have to work that shift. And the same thing happens when John, who usually works from noon to 8 on Sunday needs a Sunday off. The only options are to tweak the schedule weekly depending on time-off requests, allow employees to change their schedule only if they can swap with another suitable employee , or don’t allow schedule changes. The last leads to unhappy employees when they can’t get Saturday off to go to (insert important event), and the second will cause problems when the employee can’t find someone willing to switch.

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