# How did Rudy get to Georgia?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 18, 2022, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-rudy-get-to-georgia/969891 "2022-08-18T13:09:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Roger\_That](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roger_that/32/8505_2.png) [@Roger\_That](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roger_That)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-rudy-get-to-georgia/969891/1 "2022-08-18T13:09:46Z")

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For all the excuse-making (he claimed his medical condition made flying impossible), I suspect he didn’t bite the bullet and travel by bus, train, car or motorcycle in the end, but simply got on a flight. “Oh, well, my bullshit didn’t work–guess I’d better fly and get called a liar for the eightieth time this week” except I haven’t read anything about how he traveled. Have you heard anything?

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-rudy-get-to-georgia/969891/2 "2022-08-18T13:14:44Z")

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How did Rudy get to Georgia?

He was looking for a soul to steal.

Story for those wondering what Roger is going on about:

> **[Rudy Giuliani, a target in Atlanta probe into Trump 2020 election subversion...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/17/politics/rudy-giuliani-grand-jury-georgia/index.html)**
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> Rudy Giuliani, who was told by Atlanta prosecutors that he is a target in their probe of former President Donald Trump's 2020 election subversion schemes in Georgia, appeared behind closed doors for grand jury testimony in the investigation...

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-rudy-get-to-georgia/969891/3 "2022-08-18T14:31:07Z")

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On the Midnight Train, of course.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-rudy-get-to-georgia/969891/4 "2022-08-18T14:33:06Z")

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“Practice, practice, practice.”

(Or maybe that’s “legal malpractice”.)

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-rudy-get-to-georgia/969891/5 "2022-08-18T14:39:08Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> On the Midnight Train, of course.

He got on in South Detroit.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-rudy-get-to-georgia/969891/6 "2022-08-18T14:45:43Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> On the Midnight Train, of course.

Well done.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-rudy-get-to-georgia/969891/7 "2022-08-18T14:45:46Z")

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Showing up in court in a wheelchair was a trend a while back, and Rudy would have had the perfect excuse after his traumatic back injury.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-rudy-get-to-georgia/969891/8 "2022-08-18T16:07:44Z")

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I seem to recall this kinda bullshit for sympathy in mobster cases in NY . . . if only I could remember the name of the guy in charge of the prosecutions.  
Drudy? No. Trudy? No, it was a dude. Grudey? No, I think that’s from _Guardians of the Galaxy._ It’ll come to me, I’m sure.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-rudy-get-to-georgia/969891/9 "2022-08-18T16:39:34Z")

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Nah, he took the [Night Train](http://www.bumwine.com/nighttrain.html)

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-rudy-get-to-georgia/969891/10 "2022-08-18T16:53:04Z")

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That Night Train’s a mean wine.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-rudy-get-to-georgia/969891/11 "2022-08-18T17:39:34Z")

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And I bet Rudy is a mean drunk.

So the two go together like, I don’t know, tyranny and …

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-rudy-get-to-georgia/969891/12 "2022-08-18T18:24:16Z")

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Giualiani was a bullfrog.

Was a good friend of mine.

I never understood a single word he said, but I helped him drink his wine.

Getting back on the real topic, I found this article.

> **[Judge suggests Rudy Giuliani travel by train or 'Uber or whatever' after his...](https://www.businessinsider.com/judge-rudy-giuliani-travel-testify-grand-jury-fulton-county-2022-8)**
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> "I'm confident \[Giuliani\] can figure out a way — short of a Greyhound — to get him to Atlanta," the judge said during a court hearing on Tuesday.

The judge is very unsympathetic as Rudy’s lawyers claim he can’t travel.

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**Author:** ![Roger\_That](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roger_that/32/8505_2.png) [@Roger\_That](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roger_That)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-rudy-get-to-georgia/969891/13 "2022-08-18T20:57:13Z")

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that article is from BEFORE Rudy showed up in court yesterday. I remain curious in why no one I’ve read seems to have looked into how Rudy traveled to Georgia. Was he seen in NYC, for example, the night before he showed up in Atlanta? That would seem to pin down “air travel” as his choice, “medical issues” notwithstanding.

Or do people just consider Rudy telling lies to the court as his standard M.O., and not worth exploring?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-rudy-get-to-georgia/969891/14 "2022-08-18T21:14:50Z")

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I found this article…

[https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/rudy-giuliani-caught-traveling-after-telling-fulton-county-da-he-can-t-travel/ar-AA10ubBs](https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/rudy-giuliani-caught-traveling-after-telling-fulton-county-da-he-can-t-travel/ar-AA10ubBs)

> As it turns out, Giuliani’s claim that he couldn’t fly also flies in the face of the fact that he has been traveling, as recently as a trip to New Hampshire, according to his tweet.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-rudy-get-to-georgia/969891/15 "2022-08-18T21:21:31Z")

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He flew.

> [@](#):
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> Speaking upon his return to New York’s John F. Kennedy International Airport, Giuliani didn’t provide any additional details about his appearance or testimony, including the type of questions he was asked. He was pushed through the terminal in a wheelchair alongside his lawyer, Bob Costello.
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> Giuliani’s attorneys tried to delay his appearance before the special grand jury, saying he was unable to fly due to heart stent surgery in early July. On Wednesday, Giuliani said “my plane ride was OK,” noting that it was his first since the procedure.

> **[Giuliani says he 'satisfied' obligation with Ga. grand jury](https://apnews.com/article/rudy-giuliani-testimony-georgia-election-investigation-e9be9d1c149214b8a386d1621e2c3dfb)**
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> Rudy Giuliani is scheduled to appear in an Atlanta courthouse to testify before a special grand jury that is investigating attempts by former President Donald Trump and others to overturn his 2020 election defeat in Georgia.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-rudy-get-to-georgia/969891/16 "2022-08-18T21:53:19Z")

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Not that I want to defend Goo-liani, but it’s quite possible he wasn’t lying at all. He could have very well been telling the truth about having medical advice not to travel by plane. That makes it an _excuse_ rather than a lie.

> [@Roger\_That](#):
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> he claimed his medical condition made flying impossible

I am trying to find that, and I’m not finding it. What I’m finding is the claim that he wasn’t “cleared for air travel”. That’s different from saying it’s “impossible”. He could certainly choose to risk his health by flying, and it seems that is what he did.

I do think that he was just using this as an attempt to weasel out of appearing, and the judge was clearly having none of it.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-rudy-get-to-georgia/969891/17 "2022-08-18T23:37:08Z")

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Isn’t heart stent surgery done by running the stent up your femoral artery? It’s not open-heart. I’m pretty sure he was cleared to fly by the time he flew.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-rudy-get-to-georgia/969891/18 "2022-08-18T23:42:45Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> Showing up in court in a wheelchair was a trend a while back

Did you see this part of the AP article describing him returning home, via LaGuardia airport, which I cited upthread?

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> He was pushed through the terminal in a wheelchair alongside his lawyer, Bob Costello.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-rudy-get-to-georgia/969891/19 "2022-08-19T01:00:22Z")

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It’s life imitating art…or something.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-rudy-get-to-georgia/969891/20 "2022-08-19T01:55:33Z")

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“Uber or whatever”.

Damn, now I want a movie about Rudy’s Epic Uber Ride. He catches an Uber to Georgia. Of course, the driver is a recent immigrant to the US, trying to make a living in the gig economy. Gradually, they get deeper and deeper into a discussion of everything that’s wrong with American right now.

Okay, new title: “My Uber with Rudy”.

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