# How did the counterculture change from mid-'68 to early '70?

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**Created:** [August 18, 2013, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-the-counterculture-change-from-mid-68-to-early-70/666592 "2013-08-18T22:21:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-the-counterculture-change-from-mid-68-to-early-70/666592/41 "2013-08-20T15:49:13Z")

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> [@salinqmind](#):
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> Does anyone remember “Joe”? 1970, starred Peter Boyle and Susan Sarandon. A grim little movie that made a brief stir, then disappeared forever.

I remember the Mad Magazine parody of it.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-the-counterculture-change-from-mid-68-to-early-70/666592/42 "2013-08-20T16:55:21Z")

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> [@BrotherCadfael](#):
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> He’s right about the Kennedy assassination, but wrong about the Nixon resignation.
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> The 60s ended in 1973 when the draft ended.

Give me time and I could make a case for the 50s ending in any year from 1957 through 1967 and for the 60s ending in any year from 1967 through 1980. Neither the 50s nor the 60s were ever a single thing and their numerous component parts can naturally have different start and end dates.

There are lumpers and splitters, but in the end the lumpers lump and wind up winning. 🙂

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-the-counterculture-change-from-mid-68-to-early-70/666592/43 "2013-08-20T17:09:52Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> I see some people talking about 1974 as the “true” end of the Sixties.

Well, in '74, Nixon resigned, and the Vietnam War ended the next year. It must have seemed like the end of an era.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-the-counterculture-change-from-mid-68-to-early-70/666592/44 "2013-08-20T18:28:48Z")

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> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> Four guys made an Oklahoma City type bomb in a van and parked it next to the building that held the research center. The bomb did tremendous damage, but not to the Army Math Research Center. It blew apart a physics lab and killed a completely innocent grad student.

:eek: **Still Life With Woodpecker**! Tom Robbins must have been referencing that!

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