# How Did They Qualify Cities In Austria-Hungary **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [December 10, 2008, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-they-qualify-cities-in-austria-hungary/476589 "2008-12-10T18:35:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-they-qualify-cities-in-austria-hungary/476589/21 "2008-12-11T20:05:12Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I disagree. ISTM that only a hick would routinely mention the countries after those cities’ names. Ditto Tokyo, Moscow, Madrid, Rome, Beijing, etc. The bigger the foreign city, the less likely the country needs to be specified. Its done pretty regularly on US TV. Particularly in sports shows, i.e. “Live from Manchester, England…”. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-they-qualify-cities-in-austria-hungary/476589/22 "2008-12-11T21:17:35Z")
> [@Spiny\_Norman](#): > > Hate to nitpick, but… an _der_ Oder. The Oder river, like most German rivers, has the feminine gender(“die Oder”). “An” takes the dative. Dative form of “die” = “der”. > > (German grammar takes me back. Not to a happy place, either.) Sheesh. I knew my German had degraded to nearly nothing, but managing to mangle a never changing place name…:smack: ---
**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-they-qualify-cities-in-austria-hungary/476589/23 "2008-12-12T17:47:07Z")
As an “aside” question, I will take it most people, living in Austria-Hungary would not identify themselves as Austro-Hungarian? I still identify myself as Yugoslavian because my mother is from Croatia and my father is from Serbia, back then it was all Yugoslavia of course. But my folks never called themselves Yugoslav. So would I be correct to guess it was a similar thing in Austria-Hungary? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-they-qualify-cities-in-austria-hungary/476589/24 "2008-12-12T19:16:02Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > Its done pretty regularly on US TV. Particularly in sports shows, i.e. “Live from Manchester, England…”. Manchester is hardly as prominent as London, in more ways than one. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2008, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-they-qualify-cities-in-austria-hungary/476589/25 "2008-12-13T03:03:14Z")
> [@Markxxx](#): > > As an “aside” question, I will take it most people, living in Austria-Hungary would not identify themselves as Austro-Hungarian? > > I still identify myself as Yugoslavian because my mother is from Croatia and my father is from Serbia, back then it was all Yugoslavia of course. > > But my folks never called themselves Yugoslav. > > So would I be correct to guess it was a similar thing in Austria-Hungary? As noted upthread, Austria and Hungary (and a few other places) under a common throne. More to the point, they were two separate entities – mainly German speaking in the west and mainly Magyar and Slavic in the east. For a rough modern day analogy, think of China and Tibet. Tibet is for all intents and purposes a part of China, but the people don’t think of themselves as Tibetan-Chinese, they’re simply Tibetans. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2008, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-they-qualify-cities-in-austria-hungary/476589/26 "2008-12-13T03:37:54Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Manchester is hardly as prominent as London, in more ways than one. Also, note the possible confusion with Manchester, New Hampshire, which is the largest city in that state, and perhaps more immediate to an American audience than its English namesake. I generally think of England when I hear Manchester, but this has caused me confusion in the past when folks were referring to the American Manchester, and I was thinking the English Manchester, and it wasn’t immediately obvious from context which was intended. ---
**Author:** ![Hap\_Shaughnessy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ecc23a/32.png) [@Hap\_Shaughnessy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hap_Shaughnessy)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2008, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-they-qualify-cities-in-austria-hungary/476589/27 "2008-12-13T08:17:27Z")
Austria-Hungary? Pffft! Hardly an empire – all they ever did was slowly collapse… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-they-qualify-cities-in-austria-hungary/476589.md?page=1)