# How did this woman get elected (Pelosi)
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-this-woman-get-elected-pelosi/702982
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [October 30, 2014, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-this-woman-get-elected-pelosi/702982 "2014-10-30T08:25:53Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 5
### Author:  [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2014, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-this-woman-get-elected-pelosi/702982/81 "2014-10-30T14:48:28Z")
> [@Calatin](#):
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> Ok, fess up… Who told Free Republic about the SDMB? :dubious:
When he gets banned, he’s going to be disappointed by the absence of a long thread of LOLcats and pictures of people getting struck by lightning.
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2014, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-this-woman-get-elected-pelosi/702982/82 "2014-10-30T14:50:04Z")
> [@Ulfreida](#):
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> I did not know this. Dang, all these years I thought it was the other way around. Not, I admit, because of overwhelming evidence.
Well, if the evidence in the OP doesn’t turn you, nothing will!
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### Author:  [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2014, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-this-woman-get-elected-pelosi/702982/83 "2014-10-30T15:05:20Z")
I like how yesterday one troll was calling me “grampy” and today from this troll it’s “you kids.”
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### Author:  [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2014, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-this-woman-get-elected-pelosi/702982/84 "2014-10-30T15:11:25Z")
I’m not convinced they’re two different trolls. This ‘I’m old, therefor I know shit’ thing may be an attempt to incorporate the lesson about the uselessness of calling other people old in a debate.
The rest of their shtick is strikingly similar.
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### Author:  [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2014, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-this-woman-get-elected-pelosi/702982/85 "2014-10-30T15:16:40Z")
> [@Citizen5](#):
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> Then why did you come on to this thread. Wasn’t the title clear enough for your comprehensive abilities? (rhetorical):rolleyes:
For the same reason when I hear “train wreck” I instinctively click the link.
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### Author:  [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2014, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-this-woman-get-elected-pelosi/702982/86 "2014-10-30T15:32:17Z")
I always like the troll mind. They start out serious. Dozens of people explain the stupidity of their statement. They realize they’ve made a fool out of themselves and begin backpedaling: “I have outsmarted you. It was all a ruse. Haha UR teh dumm” not realizing we’ve seen it all before…a lot.
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### Author:  [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2014, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-this-woman-get-elected-pelosi/702982/87 "2014-10-30T15:39:34Z")
Well, sometimes they claim they were just joking. And it isn’t only the simple trolls who pull that shit.
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### Author:  [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2014, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-this-woman-get-elected-pelosi/702982/88 "2014-10-30T15:44:39Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Well, sometimes they claim they were just joking. And it isn’t only the simple trolls who pull that shit.
Yeah, I really hate the complex trolls. Stupid partially-imaginary trolls.
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### Author:  [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2014, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-this-woman-get-elected-pelosi/702982/89 "2014-10-30T15:44:56Z")
> [@Citizen5](#):
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> I seldom take suggestions from inferiors. Thanks anyway.
Yes, it’s best not to listen to imaginary people.
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### Author:  [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2014, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-this-woman-get-elected-pelosi/702982/90 "2014-10-30T15:45:23Z")
> [@lost4life](#):
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> I always like the troll mind. They start out serious. Dozens of people explain the stupidity of their statement. They realize they’ve made a fool out of themselves and begin backpedaling: “I have outsmarted you. It was all a ruse. Haha UR teh dumm” not realizing we’ve seen it all before…a lot.
Yea god, I remember all the types who tried to pull out the ‘Hah! This was all a psychology test for my class! hahahahaha!’ after being shown the massive level of idiocy they displayed back in the USENET days.
Yeah, that was greeted with another round of humiliation for the person who tried that stunt.
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### Author:  [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2014, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-this-woman-get-elected-pelosi/702982/91 "2014-10-30T15:45:45Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Two hours is not even _close_ to that record but, yes, if your entire criticism of Pelosi is based on her making a slip of the tongue, then your position is moronic. By that standard, who could you possibly _support?_
That fast-talking guy who used to do the Federal Express commercials?
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### Author:  [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2014, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-this-woman-get-elected-pelosi/702982/92 "2014-10-30T15:48:06Z")
> [@Citizen5](#):
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> Only the truly uninformed still thinks there is any real difference between the two any longer.
What, you mean the two parties? Their voter-bases are not only very different groups but increasingly mutually hostile – each viewing the other as not merely wrong but The Bad Guys. At the level of the pols and party officials . . . yes, certainly, both parties are owned by the corporations and Wall Street and the 1%. The difference is, the Dems are not **wholly** owned.
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### Author:  [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2014, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-this-woman-get-elected-pelosi/702982/93 "2014-10-30T15:49:16Z")
> [@Citizen5](#):
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> Pelosi is in the 8th district in California. Seriously, you didn’t know that?
No I didn’t know that and had no reason to know that.
Why should I give a shit what happens in the 8th District in California? I’ve got my own problems out here.
Not to mention, you are wrong. She currently represents the [12th District](https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=nancy+pelosi) of California which I also don’t give a shit about.
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### Author:  [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2014, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-this-woman-get-elected-pelosi/702982/94 "2014-10-30T15:49:17Z")
> [@Citizen5](#):
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> So here no one thinks it is important that their reps understand the difference in the 1st and 2nd amendment? I see. 🙂
> You guys do understand that is what they vow to uphold right?
Tip: To a great many fine and patriotic Americans, the 2nd Amendment is simply **not important.**
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### Author:  [@Calatin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calatin)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2014, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-this-woman-get-elected-pelosi/702982/95 "2014-10-30T15:50:53Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> The difference is, the Dems are not **wholly** owned.
Honest question: What about the Tea Party?
(I know there are some that say that the TP was a result of astroturfing, and others who say the Tea Party is, for all intents and purposes, a third party at this point, but I’m just curious as to your opinion on the matter.)
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### Author:  [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2014, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-this-woman-get-elected-pelosi/702982/96 "2014-10-30T15:52:23Z")
> [@Citizen5](#):
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> Pelosi is in the 8th district in California. Seriously, you didn’t know that?
You mean [this district](http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/43/e9/c9/43e9c944f35965d01a3ceb6aa10307ec.jpg)?
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### Author:  [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2014, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-this-woman-get-elected-pelosi/702982/97 "2014-10-30T15:55:04Z")
> [@Citizen5](#):
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> Ok one last one. It isn’t about winning an argument. It is about how easily control is relinquished to someone who just joined a couple hours ago. You kids are the easiest I have ever seen. Thanks, its been fun getting you all worked up for my own personal entertainment.
Reported.
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### Author:  [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2014, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-this-woman-get-elected-pelosi/702982/98 "2014-10-30T16:02:06Z")
> [@Kimballkid](#):
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> No I didn’t know that and had no reason to know that.
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> Why should I give a shit what happens in the 8th District in California? I’ve got my own problems out here.
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> Not to mention, you are wrong. She currently represents the [12th District](https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=nancy+pelosi) of California which I also don’t give a shit about.
I was just amazed to learn that we somehow moved the entire city of San Francisco to the Mojave overnight. Do the Giants know where they’re going once they leave KC?
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### Author:  [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2014, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-this-woman-get-elected-pelosi/702982/99 "2014-10-30T16:13:04Z")
> [@Calatin](#):
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> Honest question: What about the Tea Party?
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> (I know there are some that say that the TP was a result of astroturfing, and others who say the Tea Party is, for all intents and purposes, a third party at this point, but I’m just curious as to your opinion on the matter.)
It’s an astroturf/grassroots hybrid – [started as an astroturf project](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Tea_Party#Astroturf_organisation) but seems to have gotten away from its original funders – but it’s not a third party (yet), just one of at least two factions currently fighting for control of the GOP. In the long run, I don’t see it as having any staying power – its demographic base is just too old.
If it does have any staying power, that will be based on its character not as a populist movement but as [a party of “local notables” fighting the national bigwigs – millionaires v. billionaires](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=704287).
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### Author:  [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2014, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-this-woman-get-elected-pelosi/702982/100 "2014-10-30T16:15:52Z")
> [@asterion](#):
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> I was just amazed to learn that we somehow moved the entire city of San Francisco to the Mojave overnight. Do the Giants know where they’re going once they leave KC?
JFTR, the 8th District _used to_ be San Francisco. Redistricting redrew the boundaries of the 12th (which once included portions of The City _and_ San Mateo County), and moved the 8th to the Mojave.
(San Mateo County is still split between two districts now – the 14th and the 18th)
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