# How did we end up with two nickle/nickels?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [August 1, 2020, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-we-end-up-with-two-nickle-nickels/917015 "2020-08-01T20:15:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![mixdenny](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mixdenny/32/2962_2.png) [@mixdenny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mixdenny)\
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Seems like I get them wrong about half the time when I spell them. And what if there was a Nichol’s Nickel Nickle company, what would they make?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
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n/m didn’t notice the forum.

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**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-we-end-up-with-two-nickle-nickels/917015/3 "2020-08-01T21:04:18Z")

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Is there another meaning of nickle, besides being a variant (or incorrect, if you’re prescriptive) spelling of nickel?

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**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-we-end-up-with-two-nickle-nickels/917015/4 "2020-08-01T23:00:29Z")

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> [@mixdenny](#):
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> Seems like I get them wrong about half the time when I spell them. And what if there was a Nichol’s Nickel Nickle company, what would they make?

You appear to be under the impression that the mineral and the coin are spelled differently. They are spelled the same: nickel. “Nickle” is a variant spelling, I would guess usually for the coin.

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**Author:** ![mixdenny](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mixdenny/32/2962_2.png) [@mixdenny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mixdenny)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-we-end-up-with-two-nickle-nickels/917015/5 "2020-08-02T00:31:51Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> You appear to be under the impression that the mineral and the coin are spelled differently. They are spelled the same: nickel.

Apparently I was under that impression. Sheesh. Wonder why I thought that? Well at least I made it to 74 before publicly demonstrating I’m an idiot. (Oh, fer chissakes don’t anyone search my earlier posts).

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**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-we-end-up-with-two-nickle-nickels/917015/6 "2020-08-02T00:34:25Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> “Nickle” is a variant spelling, I would guess usually for the coin.

That’s what I learned as a kid.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-we-end-up-with-two-nickle-nickels/917015/7 "2020-08-02T15:57:10Z")

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I’m 62. I’ve never seen “nickle” written before this thread. Might be a regionalism.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-we-end-up-with-two-nickle-nickels/917015/8 "2020-08-03T03:13:41Z")

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I wouldn’t call it a regionalism, just a misspelling.

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**Author:** ![MikeS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MikeS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeS)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-we-end-up-with-two-nickle-nickels/917015/9 "2020-08-03T11:53:54Z")

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The OED has an entry for _nickle_:

> _English regional (north midlands)_. A woodpecker; (perhaps) _spec._ the green woodpecker, _Picus viridis_.

The etymologies of _nickel_ and _nickle_ are different. The OED says that the word for the metal comes from Swedish, since it was first isolated by a Swedish chemist in the mid-18th century. Meanwhile, the bird name descends from the Middle English word for the bird, from at least the 15th century.

Of course, I would bet one shiny quarter that most instances of “nickel” online are misspellings, and are not referring to [handsome/terrifying birds.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_green_woodpecker#/media/File:European_green_woodpecker_(Picus_viridis)_female_Barnes.jpg)

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Nickle is a programming language and a common misspelling of nickel.

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**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-we-end-up-with-two-nickle-nickels/917015/11 "2020-08-03T17:35:09Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> I’m 62. I’ve never seen “nickle” written before this thread. Might be a regionalism.

> [@panache45](#):
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> I wouldn’t call it a regionalism, just a misspelling.

Yeah, in my experience, it’s a prertty common misspelling. Understandable, because most similar words are spelled with “le” (pickle, tickle, etc.), but still wrong.

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**Author:** ![Ynnad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4491bb/32.png) [@Ynnad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ynnad)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-we-end-up-with-two-nickle-nickels/917015/12 "2020-08-03T17:40:29Z")

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Stupid trivia question: Why does the back of a dime say “ONE DIME” but the back of a nickel say “FIVE CENTS” and not “ONE NICKEL”?

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Is it because “dime” already means “ten cents” (or one tenth of a dollar), while “nickel” doesn’t refer to a particular value?

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Exactly See 31 U.S. Code § 5101. “United States money is expressed in dollars, dimes or tenths, cents or hundreths [_sic_], and mills or thousandths. A dime is a tenth of a dollar, a cent is a hundredth of a dollar, and a mill is a thousandth of a dollar.”

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**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-we-end-up-with-two-nickle-nickels/917015/15 "2020-08-03T18:04:18Z")

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In fact, the first nickels in the United States were three cent-nickels first issued in 1865. The five-cent nickel was not issued until 1866.

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**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-we-end-up-with-two-nickle-nickels/917015/16 "2020-08-03T18:54:45Z")

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They tried issuing silver 3-cent coins, and they were so tiny, people hated them. But there was a demand for a 3-cent coin, because first class postage was 3 cents.

And BTW, for years, 5 cent pieces were also silver. They didn’t say FIVE CENTS either-- they said HALF DIME.

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**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-we-end-up-with-two-nickle-nickels/917015/17 "2020-08-03T19:45:28Z")

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> [@RivkahChaya](#):
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> They didn’t say FIVE CENTS either-- they said HALF DIME.

Originally (1792) they said [HALF DISME](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1792_half_disme)

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**Post date:** [August 3, 2020, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-we-end-up-with-two-nickle-nickels/917015/18 "2020-08-03T19:52:32Z")

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> [@MikeS](#):
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> Of course, I would bet one shiny quarter that most instances of “nickel” online are misspellings, and are not referring to [handsome/terrifying birds.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_green_woodpecker#/media/File:European_green_woodpecker_(Picus_viridis)_female_Barnes.jpg)

Well, at least one instance.
