# How Did We Get From Pussy (cat) to Pussy (vag)? How Did Beaver Enter The Mix?

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**Created:** [September 21, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-did-we-get-from-pussy-cat-to-pussy-vag-how-did-beaver-enter-the-mix/971993 "2022-09-21T16:28:16Z")\
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Do Spanish speakers say “gatita” (little female cat) to refer to a woman’s vag? Do they also use “castor” (beaver)?

How did these two slang terms get into the English lexicon? And are they used in the local tongue (heh heh) outside of English?

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In a word - fur.

Not all cats look like this:  
[![](https://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.3020772.1470740713!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/image.jpg) ](https://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.3020772.1470740713!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/image.jpg)

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You youngsters won’t remember this but there was a time when women did not shave or trim their public hair. Anyone seeking evidence can do an online search for seventies porn.

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> [@bob\_2](#):
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> Not all cats look like this

Thank God for that!

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As for other languages, I believe _la chatte_ and _le minou_ are French slang for a woman’s genitals.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
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Pussy is easy. Furry things in a woman’s lap. Beaver used to refer to bearded men. Beard = Pubes.

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[Merriam-Webster’s dictionary](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pussy) says:

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> perhaps of Low German or Scandinavian origin; akin to Old Norse _pūss_ pocket, pouch, Low German _pūse_ vulva, Old English _pusa_ bag

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And then there was probably the time when Zsa Zsa Gabor had a cat on her lap and she asked Johnny Carson would you like to pet my pussy? And he said sure, please move your cat.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/gqCQt-CjHzw/hqdefault.jpg "Did Zsa Zsa Gábor ask Johnny Carson: "Do you want to pet my pussy...?" (1989)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqCQt-CjHzw)

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The Online Etymology Dictionary (which I love) has this for _beaver_.

> beaver (n.3)
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> “female genitals, especially with a display of pubic hair,” by 1927, British slang, ultimately from beaver (n.1), perhaps transferred from earlier meaning “a bearded man” (1910), or directly from the appearance of split beaver pelts.

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> Pussy is easy. Furry things in a woman’s lap. Beaver used to refer to bearded men. Beard = Pubes.

Considering furs, primarily beaver pelts, were the key to the opening up of Canada and its major source of revenue in the early days of New France and the Hudson’s Bay Company - no surprise if “beaver” meant fur for the last few centuries to those in Europe.

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For some reason, I was under the impression that pussy meaning vagina came from rhyming slang of pussy cat with twat.

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I had heard that it came from pusillanimous, but the above matches what etymonline says

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The Netflix series _History of Swear Words_ covered this in Episode 5, but I honestly don’t remember what they said the etymology was.

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> [@md-2000](#):
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> Considering furs, primarily beaver pelts, were the key to the opening up of Canada and its major source of revenue in the early days of New France and the Hudson’s Bay Company - no surprise if “beaver” meant fur for the last few centuries to those in Europe.

For many years, the history magazine of the Hudson Bay Company, which they later ceded to the non-profit History Canada org, was : … “The Beaver”.

That lasted until they went to online editions, and school kids who were doing history projects and searching online for articles in The Beaver were directed to … other kinds of websites.

The magazine now has the prosaic, if safe, name of “Canada’s History”.

> **[Canada's History](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada's_History)**
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> Canada's History (French: Histoire Canada) is the official magazine of Canada's National History Society. It is published six times a year and aims to foster greater popular interest in Canadian history.
> Founded as The Beaver in 1920 by the Hudson's Bay Company (HBC), the magazine was acquired by the Society in 1994. It remains partially funded by HBC and the Government of Canada. Subject matter includes all aspects of Canadian history. In 2011, it was named a finalist for "Magazine of the Yea...

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> [@bob\_2](#):
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> In a word - fur.
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> Not all cats look like this…

No, but nowadays a lot of…never mind.

mmm

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> [@WildaBeast](#):
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> The Netflix series _History of Swear Words_ covered this in Episode 5, but I honestly don’t remember what they said the etymology was.

The show gave several theories as to the origin. It’s a decent show with short episodes. I recommend it.

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> You youngsters won’t remember this but there was a time when women did not shave or trim their public hair. Anyone seeking evidence can do an online search for seventies porn.

Yep. Like a sweater. You could plant tomatoes in those gardens.  
Take it from a guy that went through puberty in the early 70’s those visuals shaped our outlook. My wife shaves hers when she’s mad at me.

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> [@HeyHomie](#):
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> Do Spanish speakers say “gatita” (little female cat) to refer to a woman’s vag? Do they also use “castor”

_Conejo_. Hare or rabbit.

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And in Norwegian it’s mouse.

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I also recall hearing the word “muff” (also as in “muff-diving”). Referencing the furry object kept in the vicinity of the lap for warming her hands in winter.

So basically, allusions to fur.

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