# How difficult do you find it to comprehend this 'love my manager' OP?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-difficult-do-you-find-it-to-comprehend-this-love-my-manager-op/700361>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [October 4, 2014, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-difficult-do-you-find-it-to-comprehend-this-love-my-manager-op/700361 "2014-10-04T06:15:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-difficult-do-you-find-it-to-comprehend-this-love-my-manager-op/700361/121 "2014-10-06T06:56:08Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I don’t think anyone is arguing that it might be somewhat more difficult to read than standard English, but “virtually incomprehensible”? No.

No, that must of course have been hyperbole.

But as I say, for me, it involves engaging a different mental process from what I would normally describe as ‘reading’. If others had to do the same, I could well imagine them frustratedly describing the passage as ‘incomprehensible’ or ‘gibberish’. In truth, when I look back at it, it’s not nearly the worst example of obscure pidgin posting I’ve seen.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-difficult-do-you-find-it-to-comprehend-this-love-my-manager-op/700361/122 "2014-10-06T16:11:10Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> No, that must of course have been hyperbole.

And that’s all I was arguing. It’s a little harder. It’s not more than that.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-difficult-do-you-find-it-to-comprehend-this-love-my-manager-op/700361/123 "2014-10-06T16:36:06Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> And that’s all I was arguing. It’s a little harder. It’s not more than that.

Its not really hard at all. Its slow. Calculus is hard. Quantum physics is hard. This is just laborious.

Like with the keyboard thing. If I rearranged a touch typist’s keyboard (or just gave a dvorak keyboard to a qwerty typist), it wouldn’t be _hard_ for them to tontinue to type - all the letters woukd still be perfectly visible and usable, it would be laboriously slow.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-difficult-do-you-find-it-to-comprehend-this-love-my-manager-op/700361/124 "2014-10-06T16:38:47Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> I quoted a passage from the beginning of the book. That’s as degraded as it got.

And I can only read it at a fraction of the speed of standard English.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-difficult-do-you-find-it-to-comprehend-this-love-my-manager-op/700361/125 "2014-10-06T16:54:41Z")

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Actually, maybe only with 50% reduction for the passage from Flowers For Algernon. Its not as badly broken as the OP in the linked thread

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-difficult-do-you-find-it-to-comprehend-this-love-my-manager-op/700361/126 "2014-10-06T17:34:29Z")

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“TL;DR” after the first eye-watering line.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-difficult-do-you-find-it-to-comprehend-this-love-my-manager-op/700361/127 "2014-10-06T17:38:58Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> I’d hate to see some of the people in this thread attempt to read _Flowers for Algernon_.

Or Iain M. Banks’ _Feersum Endjinn_. As the title implies, the main narrator in the story speaks entirely in fonetik Inglish.

I suspect that if this poll were applied to Banks’ book, you’d get similar results.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-difficult-do-you-find-it-to-comprehend-this-love-my-manager-op/700361/128 "2014-10-06T18:34:42Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Or Iain M. Banks’ _Feersum Endjinn_. As the title implies, the main narrator in the story speaks entirely in fonetik Inglish.
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> I suspect that if this poll were applied to Banks’ book, you’d get similar results.

Yep, same problem there. Worse:

> [@](#):
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> Woak up. Got dresd. Had brekfast. Spoke wif Ergates thi ant who sed itz juss been wurk wurk wurk 4 u lately master Bascule, Y dont u ½ a holiday? & I agreed & that woz how we decided we otter go 2 c Mr Zoliparia in thi I-ball ov thi gargoyle Rosbrith.  
> I fot Id bettir clear it wif thi relevint oforities furst & hens avoyd any truble (like happind thi lastime) so I went 2 c mentor Scalopin.  
> Certinly yung Bascule, he sez, i do beleave this is a day ov relativly lite dooties 4 u u may take it off. ½ u made yoor mattins calls?  
> O yes, I sed, which woznt stricktly tru, in fact which woz pretti strikly untru, trufe btold, but I cude always do them while we woz travelin.  
> Wots in that thare box yoor holdin? he asks.  
> Itz a ant, I sez, waven thi box @ his face.  
> O this is yoor litil frend, is it? i herd u had a pet. May i see him?  
> Iss not a pet, iss a frend; u woz rite thi furst time, & iss not a im iss a she. Luke.  
> O yes very pretti, he sez, which is a pretti strainge thing 2 say about a ant if u ask me but thare u go.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-difficult-do-you-find-it-to-comprehend-this-love-my-manager-op/700361/129 "2014-10-06T20:55:47Z")

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At least Banks know where his Enter/Return key is.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-difficult-do-you-find-it-to-comprehend-this-love-my-manager-op/700361/130 "2014-10-06T20:57:14Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> I’d hate to see some of the people in this thread attempt to read _Flowers for Algernon_.

The point of the grammar and spelling at the beginning and end of the work in question was designed to make the reader understand that the person writing the diary was a moron. I don’t think that was the idea in the post being discussed. At least I hope not.

Part of the trouble with that post was that, once I got the hang of figuring out the leetspeak, the problem being presented was not interesting enough to reward the effort of deciphering. So both the situation presented and the way that it was presented tended to lower expectations about the OP.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-difficult-do-you-find-it-to-comprehend-this-love-my-manager-op/700361/131 "2014-10-06T23:00:54Z")

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And a reminder that we just spent 3 pages discussing the quality of a post by someone who has made one and only one post on this MB, and by all indications will never make another.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-difficult-do-you-find-it-to-comprehend-this-love-my-manager-op/700361/132 "2014-10-07T06:29:51Z")

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Yes, I wondered about that myself.

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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-difficult-do-you-find-it-to-comprehend-this-love-my-manager-op/700361/133 "2014-10-07T07:09:30Z")

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I wondered when someone would wonder about that.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-difficult-do-you-find-it-to-comprehend-this-love-my-manager-op/700361/134 "2014-10-07T12:22:26Z")

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I knew you were going to wonder that.

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