# How do companies caller ID private numbers?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-companies-caller-id-private-numbers/629528>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [July 27, 2012, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-companies-caller-id-private-numbers/629528 "2012-07-27T03:39:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jormungandr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@Jormungandr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jormungandr)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-companies-caller-id-private-numbers/629528/1 "2012-07-27T03:39:13Z")

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I have an unlisted home phone number, so when I call someone’s house phone or cell phone it won’t show up on caller ID or be listed as private or unavailable. However, if I call my cable company or credit card company, they automatically ID me and have my account information with little input from me. Exactly how do they do this? Do the phone companies allow them access to everyone’s number?

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**Author:** ![FatBaldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecd19e/32.png) [@FatBaldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FatBaldGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-companies-caller-id-private-numbers/629528/2 "2012-07-27T03:40:57Z")

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No, but they have your phone number in their database as part of your account information. When you call in, their computer does a search on the number and identifies your account.  
Having an unlisted number doesn’t prevent them from getting the number you are calling from, the caller ID just blocks your name.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-companies-caller-id-private-numbers/629528/3 "2012-07-27T03:43:40Z")

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> [@Jormungandr](#):
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> I have an unlisted home phone number, so when I call someone’s house phone or cell phone it won’t show up on caller ID or be listed as private or unavailable. However, if I call my cable company or credit card company, they automatically ID me and have my account information with little input from me. Exactly how do they do this? Do the phone companies allow them access to everyone’s number?

Are you calling a toll-free number? Then the cable company can get the caller’s number via [ANI](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_number_identification).

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**Author:** ![MannyL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@MannyL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MannyL)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-companies-caller-id-private-numbers/629528/4 "2012-07-27T03:44:19Z")

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> [@Jormungandr](#):
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> I have an unlisted home phone number, so when I call someone’s house phone or cell phone it won’t show up on caller ID or be listed as private or unavailable. However, if I call my cable company or credit card company, they automatically ID me and have my account information with little input from me. Exactly how do they do this? Do the phone companies allow them access to everyone’s number?

If you are calling a toll free number then the calling # (yours) is passed on.

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-companies-caller-id-private-numbers/629528/5 "2012-07-27T03:45:37Z")

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If you call an 800 (or any toll-free number), the caller gets the number you called from whether it is blocked or unlisted.

ETA: what they said.

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**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-companies-caller-id-private-numbers/629528/6 "2012-07-27T03:49:22Z")

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Yep. Call my toll-free number… I’m paying… so my rules.

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**Author:** ![anson2995](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c77e96/32.png) [@anson2995](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anson2995)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-companies-caller-id-private-numbers/629528/7 "2012-07-27T15:17:18Z")

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> [@Jormungandr](#):
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> I have an unlisted home phone number, so when I call someone’s house phone or cell phone it won’t show up on caller ID or be listed as private or unavailable.

This is not true in most cases – unlisted does not equal automatic caller ID blocking. Some telcos offer it as a separate service, most offer it for free on a per call basis (\*67).

And as \*\*friedo \*\*says, your number is always available through ANI, and is _always_ passed for both 911 and toll free calls.
