# How do Jews regard Christians?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-jews-regard-christians/743617>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [January 19, 2016, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-jews-regard-christians/743617 "2016-01-19T20:55:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-jews-regard-christians/743617/121 "2016-01-29T00:25:10Z")

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So the part where the Pope says “go forth and convert Jews, just be nice about it” isn’t good enough for you? Not sure what to tell ya.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2016, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-jews-regard-christians/743617/122 "2016-01-29T00:30:42Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> It’s good. I like it. But when you say that Catholics flatly “don’t proselytize” to Jews, you’re dead wrong, even by the most current standards of the church.

Rabbi is buddies with the Baptist Minister down the road.  
Rabbi and some Congregants were puzzling over why Baptist try and convert Jews. I explained, “It’s what they _do_. It is the reason for their denomination.” Everyone just stared at me.  
_And they all moved away from me on the bench._

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2016, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-jews-regard-christians/743617/123 "2016-01-29T00:37:57Z")

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> [@cmkeller](#):
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> Sheesh, you make it sound like I insulted the guy. He clarified, I responded, and it’s over.

I didn’t intend to make it sound like anything but answering the question you asked me.

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**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2016, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-jews-regard-christians/743617/124 "2016-01-29T01:08:08Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> So the part where the Pope says “go forth and convert Jews, just be nice about it” isn’t good enough for you? Not sure what to tell ya.

Didn’t see it in your link.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2016, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-jews-regard-christians/743617/125 "2016-01-29T01:36:55Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> I didn’t intend to make it sound like anything but answering the question you asked me.

I believe Rabbi Telushkin and CMKeller. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Jayhawker\_Soule](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/57b2e6/32.png) [@Jayhawker\_Soule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayhawker_Soule)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2016, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-jews-regard-christians/743617/126 "2016-01-29T14:22:51Z")

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> [@cmkeller](#):
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> Jayhawker Soule:  
> I assumed that by “Torah” you were referring to the entirety of the Jewish scriptures rather than narrowly to the five books of Moses. That said, the word used for the witch in Samuel is also used in the Torah itself, so the belief that people like her could contact spirits of those who had died is in there, even if a concrete example of it happening isn’t illustrated there.

Thank you. _Torah_ is indeed often used by Jews to cover a broad range of texts.

> [@cmkeller](#):
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> Sheesh, you make it sound like I insulted the guy. He clarified, I responded, and it’s over.

For the record, I was not at all insulted and feel that our interchange served to clarify my original statement.

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**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2016, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-jews-regard-christians/743617/127 "2016-01-29T23:56:26Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> OK, so I gather the main points of contention are Jesus’s qualifications for messiahhood, the baffling concept of the Trinity, as well as an foreboding sense of future conflict.

I’m not a particularly observant Jew, but in my opinion another key difference is that Christianity seems to have much more of a focus on salvation in the afterlife rather than how you should live on Earth, and Protestant Christianity in particular emphasizes what you believe (“sola fide”) over how you act.

I had an evangelical Protestant friend tell me, “Jews believe you have to follow the Old Testament rules to be saved, but Jesus taught us you can be saved by believing in Him.” To which my response was, “Err, saved from what? Jews believe you should follow the rules of the Torah because it’s _what G\_d told us to do_, and because it’s what we agreed to when He made His covenant with us.” And at least in the Hebrew Bible, what happens when the Jews don’t keep their side of the bargain isn’t that they get damned to Hell, it’s that they get _conquered by the Babylonians_.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-jews-regard-christians/743617/128 "2016-01-30T01:48:24Z")

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> [@tim314](#):
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> what happens when the Jews don’t keep their side of the bargain isn’t that they get damned to Hell, it’s that they get _conquered by the Babylonians_.

🙂

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