# How do kids from "open" parents, rebel?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-kids-from-open-parents-rebel/818350>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 21, 2018, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-kids-from-open-parents-rebel/818350 "2018-07-21T23:25:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-kids-from-open-parents-rebel/818350/41 "2018-07-25T20:20:17Z")

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What was that movie whee the son of hippies becomes an FBI agent?

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-kids-from-open-parents-rebel/818350/42 "2018-07-25T22:04:34Z")

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> [@Sunspace](#):
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> What was that movie whee the son of hippies becomes an FBI agent?

[Flashback](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099581/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_93)

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-kids-from-open-parents-rebel/818350/43 "2018-07-25T22:06:32Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> That’s amish, not mormon.

Thanks for the correction

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-kids-from-open-parents-rebel/818350/44 "2018-07-25T22:28:55Z")

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[John Walker Lindh](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Walker_Lindh) converted to Islam, changed his name to Sulayman al-Faris. and joined the Taliban

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**Author:** ![DavidwithanR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@DavidwithanR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidwithanR)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-kids-from-open-parents-rebel/818350/45 "2018-07-25T22:47:17Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> I didn’t think the OP was talking about abusive parenting, but non-conforming parenting. Rebelling is a normal teenage behaviour. Changing the rules at that late date can only be harmful. If you have no rules in place by then you’re probably gonna get bad results, I am afraid. You could get lucky, maybe.

The OP was talking about parenting in general, and I stand by my point that being consistent is no good if you’re doing the wrong thing.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-kids-from-open-parents-rebel/818350/46 "2018-07-26T04:01:13Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> Many years ago in California, I knew a couple with this problem.
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> In pre-hippie days they had embraced a communal, back to the land lifestyle. In the early 1970s, after having children they moved back to suburbia for better schooling opportunities. They still followed an unconventional lifestyle but were frustrated with a pre-teen daughter who insisted on dolls and lots of pink frilly clothing and bedroom decorations.

That reminds me of the anecdote about the hippie parents who did something similar, and their grade-school aged daughter wanted to wear dresses, keep the house clean, and go to church - all things her parents didn’t believe in. Don’t know how much they allowed her to do, or what ended up happening.

Many years ago, I was at a get-together and a man there kept talking about PKs. I asked him, “Which kind?” and he replied, “What do you mean?” I told him, “Usually, a PK is a preacher’s kid, but I’ve also heard it used in reference to policeman’s kids and principal’s kids.” He was indeed referring to preacher’s kids - and I found out later that he was a policeman. :o (Estranged from all his biological children, no less.)

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-kids-from-open-parents-rebel/818350/47 "2018-07-27T01:29:50Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Many years ago, I was at a get-together and a man there kept talking about PKs. I asked him, “Which kind?” and he replied, “What do you mean?” I told him, “Usually, a PK is a preacher’s kid, but I’ve also heard it used in reference to policeman’s kids and principal’s kids.” He was indeed referring to preacher’s kids - and I found out later that he was a policeman. :o (Estranged from all his biological children, no less.)

Yeah. One of the angriest drunks I have ever encountered on FaceBook was the Methodist preacher’s kid from my hometown. He got banned from the hometown group.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2018, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-kids-from-open-parents-rebel/818350/48 "2018-07-28T23:03:56Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> Yeah. One of the angriest drunks I have ever encountered on FaceBook was the Methodist preacher’s kid from my hometown. He got banned from the hometown group.

Interesting. The Methodist church is usually pretty liberal.

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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2018, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-kids-from-open-parents-rebel/818350/49 "2018-07-29T02:13:56Z")

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As a PK, in my experience, it doesn’t really matter what denomination nor how “liberal” the father/church/denomination is.

I remember being in 6th or 7th grade, and a classmate asked me if I was a preacher’s kid? I’m like WTF. Then the classmate said “my mother explained that whoever swore the most was a PK, and it turns out she’s right!”

I used to really swear a lot. My kids basically don’t, so I’ve succeeded there I think. In fact, I’ve kinda sorta maybe taught them that not swearing can be more effective and draw more attention. A really strategic “dang” usually creates much more impact than “damn.”

Even my autistic child doesn’t swear. Although I have to confess maybe 3 months ago she tried to “tease” her twin. To parents of kids on the spectrum, this is a huge milestone to understand there is such a thing as teasing and want to participate. EXCEPT, her attempt to tease was to grab her twin’s napkin and shout “this is mine goddamnit”. I don’t know if I was more shocked or dumbfounded. It took a little while to work out she was trying to tease her sister in a good way. We’ve been working on that and she’s also learned that “goddamnit” isn’t a word she should use.

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