# How do the Tea Partiers feel about the Wikileaks issue? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [December 7, 2010, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-the-tea-partiers-feel-about-the-wikileaks-issue/563293 "2010-12-07T17:47:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Susanann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@Susanann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Susanann)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-the-tea-partiers-feel-about-the-wikileaks-issue/563293/21 "2010-12-11T17:48:28Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > How do the Tea Partiers feel about the Wikileaks issue?? Bottom line: There is really only 1 sure way to find out…leak something that is not partial to any political party, nor something that would be a threat to national security. For example, get Wikileaks to leak out obama’s birth records, all of his school and passport/visa records, his parents marriage and divorce records, and all of the facts that caused obama and michelle to be disbarred. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-the-tea-partiers-feel-about-the-wikileaks-issue/563293/22 "2010-12-11T18:18:03Z")
Are those things governmental secrets? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-the-tea-partiers-feel-about-the-wikileaks-issue/563293/23 "2010-12-11T18:58:36Z")
> [@Susanann](#): > > Bottom line: There is really only 1 sure way to find out…leak something that is not partial to any political party, nor something that would be a threat to national security. For example, get Wikileaks to leak out obama’s birth records, all of his school and passport/visa records, his parents marriage and divorce records, and all of the facts that caused obama and michelle to be disbarred. Or they could leak the truth about Palin’s retarded baby. No one could find that partial to any political party. ---
**Author:** ![Susanann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@Susanann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Susanann)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-the-tea-partiers-feel-about-the-wikileaks-issue/563293/24 "2010-12-11T21:10:47Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Or they could leak the truth about\*\* Palin’s retarded baby.\*\* . ??? There is no response to what you just said. . ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-the-tea-partiers-feel-about-the-wikileaks-issue/563293/25 "2010-12-11T21:37:03Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > As far as I can tell, opinions are all over the map on this one. The ‘security hawk’ tea partiers are opposed because they think it weakens America’s security. The libertarian tea partiers are cautiously approving, or at least agnostic. > > I don’t think the Wikileaks issue is particularly partisan, actually. Some of the information damages Obama. Some damages Bush. Some of it sheds light on actual government incompetence, while other info seems to be either harmless or just embarrassing. > > Some people on the right are actually cheering this, because they say that the revelations about the ‘back channel’ diplomacy prove that they are right about the threat Iran poses, that they are right about the ‘axis of evil’ (connections between Iran, North Korea, Syria, etc). > > Another angle on this is that the government agency that looks the worst in all this is the State Department, and the right has generally been hostile to the State Department. So I don’t think you’re going to find consensus on the right any more than you’ll find consensus on the left. > > The thing that surprised me about it is just how sloppy the government has been. Not only with security (how did a PFC have access to all this?), but with lax controls over content. Some of the comments in those cables should never have been made. The first rule of written communications is that you should assume that everything you say will eventually be made public. Some of those cables look like they were written by tweens who were just dumped by their first crush. Very unprofessional. I agree with this post in analysis of the Teabaggers, as well as in Wikileak’s fallout. The cables and the way they are written make the US government under Bush and Obama look like typical grammatically challenged high school idiots. None of the revelations so far are earth shattering. Many confirm that the government routinely lies to the people and is run by self serving idiots of the typical grammatically challenged high school variety. The posturing and chasing Assange (who is only their head guy and spokesman, not their operations end) confirms that these douches have no understanding of history of 40 years ago, much less in the long term. It reminds me of how a condo association I lived at was governed: of idiots, by idiots and for idiots. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-the-tea-partiers-feel-about-the-wikileaks-issue/563293/26 "2010-12-11T22:14:57Z")
> [@Susanann](#): > > ??? > > There is no response to what you just said. > . So you concede the point? ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-the-tea-partiers-feel-about-the-wikileaks-issue/563293/27 "2010-12-11T23:02:14Z")
> [@Susanann](#): > > When Sarah Palin was in Alaska politics, she exposed BOTH!!! democrats and republicans for their corruption, kicked them out of office, nixed their backroom illegal or corrupt secret payoffs, nulled the shady contracts that hurt Alaskans, and sent them packing or to jail. Sarah Palin turned Alaskan politics upside down and got rid of the rich old boys who were holding back Alaska. And then promptly reestablished a whole new set of shady deals that benefitted her and her shiftless slackwit husband. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-the-tea-partiers-feel-about-the-wikileaks-issue/563293/28 "2010-12-12T21:02:41Z")
> [@Susanann](#): > > Bottom line: There is really only 1 sure way to find out…leak something that is not partial to any political party, nor something that would be a threat to national security. For example, get Wikileaks to leak out obama’s birth records, all of his school and passport/visa records, his parents marriage and divorce records, and all of the facts that caused obama and michelle to be disbarred. “Disbarred”? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-the-tea-partiers-feel-about-the-wikileaks-issue/563293/29 "2010-12-21T17:37:58Z")
[Obama’s no longer licensed to practice in Illinois](https://www.iardc.org/ldetail.asp?id=662040829). **Susanann** ’s fellow kooks like to speculate that it’s because he was disbarred for double-super-secret transgressions. Eating white babies, probably. You know, because it can’t just be because he doesn’t want to practice law anymore. By the way, **Susanann** , why do you think [incoming House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith’s license is inactive](http://www.texasbar.com/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Find_a_Lawyer&template=/Customsource/MemberDirectory/MemberDirectoryDetail.cfm&ContactID=222906)? Is it because of some kind of backroom deal? Or maybe just because he’s not a practicing attorney anymore? ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-the-tea-partiers-feel-about-the-wikileaks-issue/563293/30 "2010-12-21T17:44:06Z")
I’m thinking it’s because neither is a practicing attorney anymore and doesn’t want to worry about bar dues or whatever continuing ed stuff attorneys have to worry about in Illinois or Texas. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-the-tea-partiers-feel-about-the-wikileaks-issue/563293/31 "2010-12-21T17:49:14Z")
Yes, but you have to admit it’s a pertinent question. Nearly as pertinent as “in what possible fucking sense is leaking Obama’s personal information not ‘partial to any political party’?” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-the-tea-partiers-feel-about-the-wikileaks-issue/563293.md?page=1)