# How do the terms sarcastic and sardonic differ?

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**Created:** [December 4, 2005, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-the-terms-sarcastic-and-sardonic-differ/334080 "2005-12-04T20:50:14Z")\
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I once thought “sardonic” implied sophisticated sarcasm, but I’m guessing that isn’t quite right.

Can anyone clarify?

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2005, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-the-terms-sarcastic-and-sardonic-differ/334080/2 "2005-12-04T20:54:21Z")

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“Sarcastic” would be a smart-ass and “sardonic” would be like sinister.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2005, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-the-terms-sarcastic-and-sardonic-differ/334080/3 "2005-12-04T21:03:20Z")

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Well, here’s what [dictionary.com](http://dictionary.com) has to say on the matter:

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> Synonyms: sarcastic, ironic, caustic, satirical, sardonic  
> These adjectives mean having or marked by a feeling of bitterness and a biting or cutting quality. Sarcastic suggests sharp taunting and ridicule that wounds: “a deserved reputation for sarcastic, acerbic and uninhibited polemics” (Burke Marshall). Ironic implies a subtler form of mockery in which an intended meaning is conveyed obliquely: “a man of eccentric charm, ironic humor, andabove allprofound literary genius” (Jonathan Kirsch). Caustic means corrosive and bitingly trenchant: “The caustic jokes… deal with such diverse matters as political assassination, talk-show hosts, medical ethics” (Frank Rich). Satirical implies exposure, especially of vice or folly, to ridicule: “on the surface a satirical look at commercial radio, but also a study of the misuse of telecommunications” (Richard Harrington). Sardonic is associated with scorn, derision, mockery, and often cynicism: “He was proud, sardonic, harsh to inferiority of every description” (Charlotte Brontë).

But, after reflecting on that, I still don’t see a very clear cut difference.

- Peter Wiggen

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The way I think of it, “sardonic” means the overt, eye-rolling, “yeah right” style of sarcasm, while just plain sarcasm is more deadpan. I could be wrong though.

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2005, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-the-terms-sarcastic-and-sardonic-differ/334080/5 "2005-12-04T21:19:30Z")

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Ah here we go - this entry from [m-w.com](http://m-w.com) sheds a little light (at least for me):

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> Main Entry: sar·cas·tic  
> Pronunciation: sär-'kas-tik  
> Function: adjective  
> 1 : having the character of sarcasm \<sarcastic criticism\>  
> 2 : given to the use of sarcasm : CAUSTIC \<a sarcastic critic\>
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> - sar·cas·ti·cal·ly /-ti-k(&-)lE/ adverb  
> synonyms SARCASTIC, SATIRIC, IRONIC, SARDONIC mean marked by bitterness and a power or will to cut or sting. SARCASTIC implies an intentional inflicting of pain by deriding, taunting, or ridiculing \<a critic famous mainly for his sarcastic remarks\>. SATIRIC implies that the intent of the ridiculing is censure and reprobation \<a satiric look at contemporary sexual mores\>. IRONIC implies an attempt to be amusing or provocative by saying usually the opposite of what is meant \<made the ironic observation that the government could always be trusted\>. SARDONIC implies scorn, mockery, or derision that is manifested by either verbal or facial expression \<surveyed the scene with a sardonic smile\>.

Seems to me this makes sense. Sardonic describes your internal feelings - derision or scorn. Sarcastic relates to your intent to cause harm by taunting or ridiculing.

That seems right to me. You wouldn’t say that you “surveyed the scene with a sarcastic smile.” Or, alternatively, “a critic famous mainly for his sardonic remarks.” … Although I probably would say the second one.

Does this division - internal v. intent - make sense to anyone else?

- Peter Wiggen

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2005, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-the-terms-sarcastic-and-sardonic-differ/334080/6 "2005-12-04T21:25:15Z")

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I was under the impression that sardonic was just bitter sarcasm.

I think [www.dictionary.com](http://www.dictionary.com) may have defined it that way. Makes sense in the context sardonic is usually used in

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**Post date:** [December 5, 2005, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-the-terms-sarcastic-and-sardonic-differ/334080/7 "2005-12-05T00:48:07Z")

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> [@PeterWiggen](#):
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> Seems to me this makes sense. Sardonic describes your internal feelings - derision or scorn. Sarcastic relates to your intent to cause harm by taunting or ridiculing.
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> That seems right to me. You wouldn’t say that you “surveyed the scene with a sarcastic smile.” Or, alternatively, “a critic famous mainly for his sardonic remarks.” … Although I probably would say the second one.
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> Does this division - internal v. intent - make sense to anyone else?
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> - Peter Wiggen

In my OED, sarcasm says “ironically scornful language.”

Sardonic says “bitterly mocking or cynical.”

I think sardonic covers more than just language, but sarcasm refers to language. I read a book recently where a little girl is described as smiling sarcastically and it bothered me because I never heard of anyone smiling sarcastically before!

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**Post date:** [December 5, 2005, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-the-terms-sarcastic-and-sardonic-differ/334080/8 "2005-12-05T04:18:36Z")

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Ooh boy was I wrong . Don’t you hate people who don’t know what the f---- they’re talking about ?
