# How Do They "Support the Troops" Down in Texas? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 16, 2005, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-they-support-the-troops-down-in-texas/317219 "2005-08-16T05:10:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2005, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-they-support-the-troops-down-in-texas/317219/21 "2005-08-16T14:47:43Z")
Being a former Okie, I know for a fact that everyone in Texas is in fact, an asshole, devil worshiping, unAmerican, gun loving (in a much more literal sense than you think), dog loving (again, more literal) freak of nature. Boomer Sooner Boomer Sooner Boomer Sooner Boomer Sooner (repeat, as Okies can only remember two words to a song) ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2005, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-they-support-the-troops-down-in-texas/317219/22 "2005-08-16T15:15:47Z")
At last year’s Red River Shootout, I overheard two OU students talking… Older Student: “Hey, after the win we all go over to [establishment] to celebrate.” Younger Student: “What happens if we lose?” Older Student: “Beats me. I’ve only been here four years.” ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2005, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-they-support-the-troops-down-in-texas/317219/23 "2005-08-16T19:00:43Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > Being a former Okie, I know for a fact that everyone in Texas is in fact, an asshole, devil worshiping, unAmerican, gun loving (in a much more literal sense than you think), dog loving (again, more literal) freak of nature. > > Boomer Sooner > Boomer Sooner > Boomer Sooner > Boomer Sooner > (repeat, as Okies can only remember two words to a song) And as a former Orangeman I can tell you that we’re still waiting for our Big XII basketball conference trophy from 2003. Remember the year we owned you and Texas and OK State and Kansas for good measure? How and when did this turn into a college pissing contest (not that I’m complaining)? ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2005, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-they-support-the-troops-down-in-texas/317219/24 "2005-08-16T20:42:46Z")
The guy’s name is Larry Northern. [Here’s the mugshot.](http://www.kwtx.com/news/headlines/1686471.html) [Here is Mr. Northern](http://www.wacoforsale.com/ltd/hall-of-fame.html) as president of the L.T. Dillon Shooting Facility gun club. [Here is a news article](http://www.baylor.edu/lariat/news.php?action=story&story=15803) where Mr. Northern boasts of voting for the local Republican candidate for sheriff in 2000. And [here is an anecdotal description](http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2005/8/16/134513/973/13) of Mr. Northern from a fellow local, who describes him as a “hardcore Republican and ‘righteous’ Christian.” More “compassionate conservatism” and “Christian values,” I suppose… ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2005, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-they-support-the-troops-down-in-texas/317219/25 "2005-08-16T21:12:40Z")
I guess Larry isn’t willing to put his money where his mouth is. [Fundrace.org](http://Fundrace.org) and OpenSecrets don’t list Larry as donating to any political cause. Then again, they don’t list me either, so I question their reliability. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2005, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-they-support-the-troops-down-in-texas/317219/26 "2005-08-16T21:35:28Z")
> [@black455](#): > > Driving a truck over an inanimate war memorial? Pffft. Leave it to a Texan. > > Here in Ohio, we drive our trucks over [live, human protesters](http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2003/03/25/loc_drivercharged25.html). But you don’t sentence them for squat: 180 days in jail (suspended), 6 months community service and $180 in fines. [http://www.courtclerk.org/aps/ttl/lns/smcpb026.asp?/03/CRB/9555](http://www.courtclerk.org/aps/ttl/lns/smcpb026.asp?/03/CRB/9555) ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2005, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-they-support-the-troops-down-in-texas/317219/27 "2005-08-16T22:31:22Z")
> [@Atticus Finch](#): > > Yeah, but he’s really from Maine. Fucking North-Easterners. Uh-uh! Born in Connecticut! Grew up in Texas. Did I mention Mainers even arrested him for DUI? Yee-hah! So, don’t, uh, stain Maine! ---
**Author:** ![Unregistered\_Bull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3da27b/32.png) [@Unregistered\_Bull](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unregistered_Bull)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2005, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-they-support-the-troops-down-in-texas/317219/28 "2005-08-16T23:13:13Z")
“Criminal Mischief Over $1,500 and under $20,000” They must have included labor. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2005, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-they-support-the-troops-down-in-texas/317219/29 "2005-08-16T23:15:42Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > Being a former Okie, I know for a fact that everyone in Texas is in fact, an asshole, devil worshiping, unAmerican, gun loving (in a much more literal sense than you think), dog loving (again, more literal) freak of nature. Ordinarily I would object to this sort of characterization, but this time, you’ve pretty much got me pegged. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2005, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-they-support-the-troops-down-in-texas/317219/30 "2005-08-17T04:35:06Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > Connecticut. But lived most of his life in Texas. Just setting the record straight. > > Kennebunkport is the family vacation home, not the birthplace of “W”. I will not skim threads, I will not skim threads, I will not skim threads, I will not skim threads, I will not skim threads… ---
**Author:** ![mks57](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@mks57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mks57)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2005, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-they-support-the-troops-down-in-texas/317219/31 "2005-08-17T08:39:29Z")
> [@Pochacco](#): > > [They drive their pick-up trucks through a memorial to our fallen soldiers.](http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/8/15/233811/409) Did any of the protesters who put up the crosses in the first place, bother themselves with first asking the families of the dead soldiers for their permission? ---
**Author:** ![Greathouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greathouse/32/2992_2.png) [@Greathouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greathouse)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2005, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-they-support-the-troops-down-in-texas/317219/32 "2005-08-17T12:39:43Z")
> [@rjung](#): > > The guy’s name is Larry Northern. [Here’s the mugshot.](http://www.kwtx.com/news/headlines/1686471.html) > > [Here is Mr. Northern](http://www.wacoforsale.com/ltd/hall-of-fame.html) as president of the L.T. Dillon Shooting Facility gun club. > > [Here is a news article](http://www.baylor.edu/lariat/news.php?action=story&story=15803) where Mr. Northern boasts of voting for the local Republican candidate for sheriff in 2000. > > And [here is an anecdotal description](http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2005/8/16/134513/973/13) of Mr. Northern from a fellow local, who describes him as a “hardcore Republican and ‘righteous’ Christian.” > > More “compassionate conservatism” and “Christian values,” I suppose… Holy fuck, man. We get it. We ALL fucking get it. You’ve got a hard on for bashing conservatives. Seriously, we understand and recognize your hatred of all things conservative. But seriously, do you need to do this shit in EVERY FUCKING THREAD? ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2005, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-they-support-the-troops-down-in-texas/317219/33 "2005-08-17T14:47:48Z")
> [@mks57](#): > > Did any of the protesters who put up the crosses in the first place, bother themselves with first asking the families of the dead soldiers for their permission? Did those folks over in Washington ask permission of all the family members of those boys on the wall? ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2005, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-they-support-the-troops-down-in-texas/317219/34 "2005-08-17T16:11:08Z")
> [@mks57](#): > > Did any of the protesters who put up the crosses in the first place, bother themselves with first asking the families of the dead soldiers for their permission? I thought the people that put up crosses were family members. It’s not like there were 1800 crosses. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2005, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-they-support-the-troops-down-in-texas/317219/35 "2005-08-17T16:24:11Z")
**1800 Crosses** would make a nifty monicker for a group of talented musicians. ---
**Author:** ![mks57](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@mks57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mks57)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2005, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-they-support-the-troops-down-in-texas/317219/36 "2005-08-17T18:07:38Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > I thought the people that put up crosses were family members. > > It’s not like there were 1800 crosses. According to the blog, there were 800 crosses. I think that it is highly unlikely that 800 family members traveled to Texas to put up a cross. It’s also rather insensitive to the dead soldiers who were not Christians. ---
**Author:** ![pullin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c57346/32.png) [@pullin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pullin)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2005, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-they-support-the-troops-down-in-texas/317219/37 "2005-08-17T20:51:22Z")
> [@MGibson](#): > > It’s Texas. We’re allowed to make broad generalizations about Texas, California, and the the south based on the actions of one or a few individuals. Just Texas? Sorry; But broad generalizations and ridicule are allowed when referring to any southern white male. Or did I miss the memo limiting this to Texans only? ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2005, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-they-support-the-troops-down-in-texas/317219/38 "2005-08-17T21:18:05Z")
> [@rjung](#): > > The guy’s name is Larry Northern. [Here’s the mugshot.](http://www.kwtx.com/news/headlines/1686471.html) > > [Here is Mr. Northern](http://www.wacoforsale.com/ltd/hall-of-fame.html) as president of the L.T. Dillon Shooting Facility gun club. > > [Here is a news article](http://www.baylor.edu/lariat/news.php?action=story&story=15803) where Mr. Northern boasts of voting for the local Republican candidate for sheriff in 2000. > > And [here is an anecdotal description](http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2005/8/16/134513/973/13) of Mr. Northern from a fellow local, who describes him as a “hardcore Republican and ‘righteous’ Christian.” > > More “compassionate conservatism” and “Christian values,” I suppose… First link is a picture and another version of the story. Second link is not valid; the entire domain appears empty even. Third link has this quotation from Northern, “Baylor parent and Woodway resident Larry Northern said he decided to support Lynch because he was ‘honest, straight-shooting and moral.’ Northern said Lynch’s favorite saying was, ‘Don’t do crime because you’re going to do the time.’” I dunno how that can be called a “boast.” Fourth link is a blog post, and even is we had some means of judging the veracity of the author, the author only says he’s “seen Larry Northern 100 times.” What the blog doesn’t say is that its author actually **knows** Northern. Great cites you’ve got there, rjung. Not a single one of which supports your claim. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-they-support-the-troops-down-in-texas/317219/39 "2005-08-18T02:20:23Z")
This makes just two examples on that road of attempting to squelch dissent by terror. Reminds me of the reconstructionist-era “gun clubs” that practiced outside black polling locations… ---
**Author:** ![if6was9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@if6was9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if6was9)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-they-support-the-troops-down-in-texas/317219/40 "2005-08-18T04:55:09Z")
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