# How do we feel about teachers fired for posting homemade porn?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [December 14, 2023, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614 "2023-12-14T20:21:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/201 "2023-12-15T22:34:14Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> You said it. She got _caught_.  
> Proves it to me, if you have to hide it even you(the bigger you) knew it was wrong.

So, if she hadn’t tried to hide it…?

If she had talked about it openly with her students?  
If she had promoted herself on the site as “The sexy middle-school teacher”?  
Would that have been better?

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/202 "2023-12-15T22:34:17Z")

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Nonsense. Plenty of risks were great ideas and turned out well.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/203 "2023-12-15T22:36:05Z")

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She’d have gotten put on leave and resigned quicker.

And yes Risky behavior with multiple sex partners is a bad idea.

(We’re not talking about the moon shot here)

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/204 "2023-12-15T22:36:35Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> She said in an interview she knew she was making a risky choice. She knew it was wrong.

That doesn’t follow. She knew that there was a risk in how others would view her behavior due to some Puritanical BS. It doesn’t make it “wrong” any more than, say, a gay teacher back in the day would hide his or her sexuality not because it’s “wrong” but because of our backwards society opinion on the matter.

> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> And yes Risky behavior with multiple sex partners is a bad idea.

Were there multiple sex partners here? It doesn’t really matter to me, but what I see is at least one of the performers did it with her husband, and I don’t know about the other. OnlyFans is often (usually?) people either going at it solo or with their SO.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/205 "2023-12-15T22:38:34Z")

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I said up thread a Gay/Lesbian teacher does not make that choice. They just are.  
This teacher made an informed choice. At her own risk.  
It’s her fault.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/206 "2023-12-15T22:39:35Z")

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But you are equating hiding something with “know[ing] that it [was] wrong.” I disagree with that equivalence. I hide stuff I don’t want other people to know about that I don’t think is wrong in the least.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/207 "2023-12-15T22:40:34Z")

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Fine. What ever. Forget the words.

What if it was your child’s teacher.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/208 "2023-12-15T22:40:58Z")

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I wouldn’t care in the least at all. Why would I?

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/209 "2023-12-15T22:41:11Z")

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Bullshit.  
Every parent of a student of hers went and looked at that video. You know it, I know it. The whole damn world knows it.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/210 "2023-12-15T22:41:56Z")

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‘Think of the children!’

I admit I don’t have kids. I don’t think I’d really care.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/211 "2023-12-15T22:42:44Z")

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_Shrug_ I really wouldn’t. This is something I feel very strongly about and have since I was an adolescent being told what sexual proclivities are okay and which are not, which all turned out to be a bunch of horseshit.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/212 "2023-12-15T22:44:11Z")

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I don’t care what the teacher does to get her rocks off.  
It’s the fact she videoed it and sold it. For the world to see.

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**Author:** ![Drum\_God](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drum_god/32/44_2.png) [@Drum\_God](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drum_God)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/213 "2023-12-15T23:06:05Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> Otherwise, by this logic, a teacher should be banned from participating in any off-campus political activity. _How can we know Mrs. Smith is going to be an unbiased teacher for her students if she was spotted handing out Democratic (or Republican) pamphlets during summer break?_

I’m a retired school teacher. While I was still teaching, I’ve had this exact thing happen to me. I’m a Democrat in a deeply red county. I’m also a frequent letter-writer to the local newspaper and one who participates actively in the democratic process. Teachers do not surrender their First Amendment rights just to be a teacher.

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/214 "2023-12-15T23:11:50Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Like it or not a teacher is a role model and should conduct themselves in a way as to not harm the children they are tasked to teach.

I agree with this. But it’s not really relevant to what we’re discussing.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> I don’t care what the teacher does to get her rocks off.  
> It’s the fact she videoed it and sold it. For the world to see.

So what?  
I again notice that none of the Fire Her! crowd can point out how this affects her ability to teach. More of “I disapprove.” And speaking of that, isn’t this a subjective standard? Should she have been fired for living with her boyfriend? Going to a nude beach? Committing sodomy because that makes God cry? Ohhhh, what if she committed adultery? Voting for Biden which in Deep Red some may say is immoral. “Shiiiiiit. Our student know she voted for Biden and next she’ll have our student voting for that AOC for President. I want my kid outta her class.”

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/216 "2023-12-15T23:34:17Z")

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Oh come on. This is not what the thread is about.

She did what she did. It was wrong, or the very least ill-advised.

Now she’s not a teacher.

Her own bad choice.

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/217 "2023-12-15T23:45:56Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> She did what she did. It was wrong,

What made it wrong for her and not a non-teacher? In fact, what makes it wrong beside YOUR perception of morality? Again this is People should act the way I want them to act with no real objective argument behind it.

And for you, wolfpup et alii that would have her fired. Why is it that you are so vitriolic? Maybe instead ask yourself how tragic it is that she felt it necessary to do this to pay off her debt she incurred to be a teacher.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/218 "2023-12-15T23:57:18Z")

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Oh, believe me, I think of lots of things people do are wrong.

The OP ask how do we feel about this. I feel it’s wrong.  
I don’t really care what she does. But investing her time in a industry that, again, demeans and degrades woman to the detriment of all people is wrong. I don’t want my children around anyone with such bad judgement.

It can’t be unseen. She’s not teacher material anymore.  
Her own fault.

ETA, she said she’s gotten a lot more subscribers since the news hit. Her career path is set. I wish her luck and hope she practices safe sex.

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/219 "2023-12-16T00:05:28Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> It can’t be unseen. She’s not teacher material anymore.  
> Her own fault.

And no empathy that she did it to pay off the student loans to become a teacher?

Let’s followup with

> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> But investing her time in a industry that, again, demeans and degrades woman to the detriment of all people is wrong.

Considering that women being demeaned and treated as second-class citizens is an issue in pretty much ALL businesses, you just justified that ANYONE in business that does amateur porn should be fired because it perpetuates misogyny. Glad we have a set standard now.

OR is it that you don’t mean that and it is a special standard for only teachers?

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> I got an A in Spanish anyway,

…or maybe the attraction, not distraction, led you to pay close attention and excel?

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