# How do we feel about teachers fired for posting homemade porn? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [December 14, 2023, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614 "2023-12-14T20:21:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/421 "2024-01-02T18:35:19Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > I’d almost feel as perturbed if he were putting all that time into, say, poetry. Poetry is more embarrassing than vegan porn. ---
**Author:** ![Dorjan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dorjan/32/12440_2.png) [@Dorjan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dorjan)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/422 "2024-01-02T18:54:23Z")
> [@eyeamnicegirl](#): > > Oddly, going all the way actually went down somewhat, and with the exception of one sr prom casualty, the me and my friend group all graduated high school as technical virgins – but for every one of us, it was only technical, as we had all been to third base at least once. Lets just say that blowjobs aren’t the end of the world, and not particularly damaging to a young adult’s life. But porn? Oh my, that’s can deliver some serious and permanent consequences. We really don’t want the people in places of respect to be caught doing porn, as it will lead some teens right down the same pathway. Let me get this right - you are saying that actually engaging in oral sex with other teens is less damaging to a teen (everyone did it!) than looking at pictures/movies of adults engaging in oral sex? ---
**Author:** ![doreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@doreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doreen)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/423 "2024-01-02T19:09:28Z")
I think > [@eyeamnicegirl](#): > > as it will lead some teens right down the same pathway. is referring to teens posting their own homemade porn - and the distribution of it might in fact cause more damage than the actual sexual activity. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/424 "2024-01-02T19:11:48Z")
How about vegan porn poetry? _The things I have done with zucchini_ _On camera in a bikini…_ _No leather is used_ _When I’m being abused—_ _Do you think that the students have seen me?_ ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/425 "2024-01-02T19:13:02Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > Poetry is more embarrassing than vegan porn. For real. ---
**Author:** ![eyeamnicegirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/aca169/32.png) [@eyeamnicegirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eyeamnicegirl)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/426 "2024-01-03T13:03:05Z")
Yes. Consentual sexual activity between two teenagers (or two adults for that matter) is less damaging than porn consumption is. I’m not advocating for teens to be having lots of sex activity; yet in compative terms, participation in normal teen sexual activity is less damaging than pornography is. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/427 "2024-01-03T15:00:26Z")
> [@eyeamnicegirl](#): > > participation in normal teen sexual activity is less damaging than pornography is You have got to be kidding. No one ever got pregnant or caught an STD from watching porn. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/428 "2024-01-03T16:07:49Z")
I thought it was sarcastic, but reading the previous posts it seems it may not be! Wow! ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/429 "2024-01-03T16:15:27Z")
> [@eyeamnicegirl](#): > > in compative terms, participation in normal teen sexual activity is less damaging than pornography is. It’s impossible to say categorically that one of these is always less damaging than the other; there are too many possible factors and manifestations. There’s certainly a lot of potential for damage from even “normal” teen sexual activity. But I think I see where @eyeamnicegirl is coming from: pornography can warp one’s view of sexuality in a way that a bit of teenage fooling-around won’t. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/430 "2024-01-03T16:27:48Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > But I think I see where @eyeamnicegirl is coming from: pornography can warp one’s view of sexuality in a way that a bit of teenage fooling-around won’t. Certainly pornography is a lot easier to access these days than it was when I was growing up. As a kid, the best I could hope for was to find somone’s stash in the woods or an unmarked VHS at someone’s house when their parents weren’t home, and most of what I would have had access to was rather tame compared to what’s easily available online. Bill Mahr made a joke about how young men have a warped perception because of porn and think anal is second base. (I know, we don’t like Mahr here, but I thought it was good joke.) ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/431 "2024-01-03T16:59:21Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > pornography can warp one’s view of sexuality in a way that a bit of teenage fooling-around won’t. Warp? Or expand? I don’t want to get into a whole debate about the merits or evils of porn\*, and I certainly agree that kids can get unrealistic ideas about sex from porn, but I think there’s also value in a 15-year-old being able to see something they might want to try when they’re older. (\*And it’s my OP, so 😜) ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/432 "2024-01-03T19:08:48Z")
Porn badness: (1) exploitation, particularly of women (2) unrealistic standards and expectations (3) extreme porn probably has stuff one should never actually do, even with consenting adults Actual sex badness: (1) risk of disease (2) risk of pregnancy (esp. in some states post-Roe) (3) physical desires outpace emotional maturity (4) physical desires cause conflict with religion / morality of upbringing For teens, there’s some pretty major downsides to both. Since humanity’s track record of cutting off access to either is pretty poor, I vote we just destigmatize the whole mess so that we can prepare the teens for where their hormones lead them. But the majority are pretty clearly going to go with “pretend it’s not a thing” until that works, so… ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/433 "2024-01-03T19:19:41Z")
I am of very mixed mind here but greater concern about much of what is immediately available on line over typical teen aged hijinks is very reasonable to me. FWIW teenagers are having LESS sex now than in decades past. They are waiting longer. And they are more likely to use birth control. Unfortunately they are confident in hormonal birth control so STDs, especially chlamydia, is increasing even with less activity. The waiting longer is fine as it goes but I fear that some of that is the result of less in person social interaction and less skill in doing so. That I do not think is good. Covid didn’t cause such but it worsened it. With less in person skill development I worry that exposure to the sorts of porn that is prevalent (not the chancellor’s healthy sexy couple cooking and sex show) has more distortion risk for all genders and orientations. Exposure is unavoidable and has become normative but yeah long term I am I think more worried about it than teen sexual activity going back to the rates of a few decades past. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/434 "2024-01-03T19:21:18Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > I vote we just destigmatize the whole mess so that we can prepare the teens for where their hormones lead them. Amen to that. Good analysis. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/435 "2024-01-03T19:27:55Z")
> [@eyeamnicegirl](#): > > We learned this with Bill Clinton and Monika – if the PRESIDENT says blowjobs aren’t sex, guess what us hormonal-already-sort-of-wanted-to-mess-around teenagers did? IIRC Clinton kept his job despite being a role-model. In fact, many on SD (and I suspect some in this thread that want the teacher fired) were mortally offended with the mere thought that Clinton was impeached (not convicted) for “just a blowjob”. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/436 "2024-01-03T19:30:16Z")
Again there’s porn and there’s porn. Sex body positive realistic stuff would be one thing. What most see when streaming is not though where most of them will have their hormones take them. I don’t _know_ if or how harmful early exposure to that is but the experiment of high volume exposure is in progress? ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/437 "2024-01-03T19:31:07Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > How about vegan porn poetry? > > _The things I have done with zucchini_ > _On camera in a bikini…_ > _No leather is used_ > _When I’m being abused—_ > _Do you think that the students have seen me?_ Golf clap. I’ll share this (with proper attribution) with SOME of my colleagues. (And, I like your analysis a couple posts ago. It will help guide my conversations with my tweener). ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/438 "2024-01-03T21:17:18Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > Warp? Or expand? Billie Eilish, for example, has spoken about how exposure to porn has (she says) been harmful to her. > **[Billie Eilish says porn exposure while young caused nightmares](https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-59658663)** > > The singer-songwriter spoke about how "abusive" pornography skewed her early sexual experiences. There are things that are true about her case that don’t apply to others, such as how young she was when she was first exposed to it (11), what kind of porn she was watching (“violent” and “abusive”), and probably other factors, so this is not just a matter of “Porn is bad, mmkay?” But I take it as one example (and there are probably many others, among people who are significantly less famous) of how exposure to porn _can_ (not inevitably will, but can) be harmful. ---
**Author:** ![eyeamnicegirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/aca169/32.png) [@eyeamnicegirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eyeamnicegirl)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/439 "2024-01-04T11:17:06Z")
He was impeached for committing perjury – lying under oath on the witness stand during a trial. Which is a felony in every state. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/440 "2024-01-04T11:36:14Z")
The number of standards used in the US is mind boggling. You’re ok with having your president semi-publicly cheating with an actual porn actress, a FLOTUS that used to be a sex worker. Yet you demand your teachers to be nuns. Good luck with that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614.md?page=23)