# How do we feel about teachers fired for posting homemade porn? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [December 14, 2023, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614 "2023-12-14T20:21:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 44
**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/863 "2024-03-05T21:52:09Z")
Clearly there is only one way to resolve this question once and for all: all of the teachers in this thread must post porn videos involving themselves online, then wait 6 months to see what happens. 1. Did any of your students find your videos (you’ll need to enlist student moles for this)? 2. Were you mocked and ridiculed behind your back (you’ll need to enlist student moles for this too)? 3. Did your student’s grades spring up, or droop down? You’ll need to send me the website password so I can monitor the situation…unless you’re really old. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/864 "2024-03-05T21:55:21Z")
You first. For respect and all. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/865 "2024-03-05T21:57:11Z")
> [@Tibby](#): > > 1. Were you mocked and ridiculed behind your back (you’ll need to enlist student moles for this too)? > 2. Did your student’s grades spring up, or droop down? I don’t see the connection between 2 and 3. Sure there will be mocking, that’s a risk the teacher took. We certainly mocked teachers for a lot less. But, as an example, the two teachers in my school who were widely suspected of sleeping with students generated a lot of gossip. My grades didn’t suffer in either’s class. I can easily imagine quite a buzz if one of my attractive teachers was known to have a porn page, yet even if I viewed it a few dozen times, I don’t see a reason for my grades to drop. I still would have to read Great Expectations and be prepared to discuss it in class. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/866 "2024-03-05T21:59:19Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > We haven’t gotten to ‘Teachers with OnlyFans sites leads directly to Hitler!’ . . . yet If Hitler’s art teacher wasn’t in porn, he would have paid attention in class and become a better artist. He would then have been accepted into art school and built a fulfilling life as a painter of moderate renown. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/867 "2024-03-05T22:02:58Z")
Ahh, but Hitler would have been mocked for that missing testicle so he clearly could not be a teacher! > **['Hitler, has only got one ball!' - British World War 2 Song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKp6uD1JAdc%2F1)** > > 'Hitler Has Only Got One Ball.' Is a British wartime song, sometimes known as "Goring Has Two But Very Small," was a humorous and satirical song from World W... ---
**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/868 "2024-03-05T22:07:30Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I don’t see the connection between 2 and 3. Sure there will be mocking, that’s a risk the teacher took. We certainly mocked teachers for a lot less. But, as an example, the two teachers in my school who were widely suspected of sleeping with students generated a lot of gossip. My grades didn’t suffer in either’s class. That’s the point of the study, to see if there is a connection. I think a large sample study would show grade degradation. You apparently believe otherwise. That’s why this study must commence. > [@Chisquirrel](#): > > You first. For respect and all. Sorry, there’s no porn site big enough to see all of me. My porn name is Tibby Longfellow. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/869 "2024-03-05T22:16:54Z")
> [@Tibby](#): > > It would be hard for students to view someone as a respected authority if they are mocked and ridiculed due to a sex scandal. > > And, I believe kids aren’t as receptive to learning from someone who they mock and ridicule. Even as an adult, I’d find that difficult. So if Mrs. Polly’s husband cheats on her, a fact which comes out publically when Mr. Polly and his amorous companion are caught making out behind a shed on a Ring doorbell camera video that gets posted on the town’s NextDoor page, and this leads to Mrs. Polly being publically ridiculed due to a sex scandal - should she be fired from her teaching position? ---
**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/870 "2024-03-05T22:23:47Z")
No, she should not be fired. If anything (thinking of how my classmates and I would have reacted back in the day), we would feel sorry for Mrs. Polly and become even more receptive to her teaching. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/871 "2024-03-05T22:23:54Z")
So if Mrs. Polly gets a bad haircut and this leads to Mrs. Polly being publicly ridiculed - should she be fired from her teaching position? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/872 "2024-03-05T22:27:50Z")
> [@Tibby](#): > > No, she should not be fired. Way to fight the hypothetical! So, have we established that public ridicule is not sufficient reason for the firing? ---
**Author:** ![Jay\_Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Jay\_Z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jay_Z)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/873 "2024-03-05T22:37:53Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > I agree that our society in general needs (a) less shaming and demonizing about sex work and sexual behavior overall, and (b) a less exploitative and abusive commercial porn industry. But I don’t see a good way for adults to advocate for those things in the context of a schoolteacher moonlighting as a porn performer, on account of that firewall. > > Are the porn performer’s fellow teachers, for example, going to support her by telling their students “Look, I use porn sometimes, like almost every adult, and it’s not a matter for shame or prying, so you need to stop hassling Ms. Fellowteacher about her OnlyFans account and just mind your own business?” While I approve of modeling healthy acceptance of sexual behavior, I just don’t think it’s ever a good idea for teachers to even mention their own porn-use habits or other sexual activities to students, no matter how good the cause. I’m just going to disagree that porn is victimless. Porn wasn’t even widely available 30 years ago. Somehow, we got along. Porn really isn’t necessary at all. For anything. It’s more like the commercialization of alcohol production produced a whole bunch of alcoholics and other drinking problems, and it indeed did do that. It’s why we got Prohibition. You need to know what went on before. Porn is already interfering fairly significantly in a negative way in the lives of its users. And it does indeed require actors as well. And I guess we can pretend that we will neve meet these people that we are masturbating to, whoops I guess that didn’t work in this case. Not signing up for this conversation at all. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/874 "2024-03-05T22:39:10Z")
> [@Tibby](#): > > Well, Ron Jeremy was my role model, but that’s beside the point. > > How about instead of “role model”, we substitute “someone in authority, who should be respected.” If a mother had an extramarital affair should she lose custody of the kids? Lose her job? Be kicked off the PTA? If a teacher has a civil judgement for tax evasion, should they lose their job? Male teacher is a customer of Only Fans? Fired? Role models, right? ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/875 "2024-03-05T22:41:33Z")
> [@Jay\_Z](#): > > Porn really isn’t necessary at all. “All art is quite useless.” - Oscar Wilde ---
**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/876 "2024-03-05T22:43:57Z")
Why would someone cheated on be ridiculed? “Behavior unbecoming an officer” is an important regulation because it reflects the professional standards that military officers are expected to uphold. Officers who engage in conduct that dishonors or disgraces themselves or their position may compromise their character, reputation, and ability to lead. Such conduct may also undermine the trust and respect of their subordinates, peers, superiors, and the public. Therefore, behavior unbecoming an officer is prohibited by Article 133 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), and may result in administrative or criminal penalties. Substitute _teacher_ for _officer_, _teach_ for _lead_, _students_ for _subordinates_, and _firing_ for _criminal penalties_, and that pretty much reflects my view on this topic. But, I agree teachers should not be fired without compensation unless banning “unbecoming behavior” or something similar is spelled out in the teacher job description, which I assume it is not. Although, it seems common sense to me. ---
**Author:** ![Jay\_Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Jay\_Z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jay_Z)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/877 "2024-03-05T22:45:21Z")
> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#): > > “All art is quite useless.” - Oscar Wilde Porn isn’t “all” of anything. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/878 "2024-03-05T22:47:30Z")
> [@Tibby](#): > > Why would someone cheated on be ridiculed? Why would someone performing in porn be ridiculed? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/879 "2024-03-05T22:47:32Z")
> [@Jay\_Z](#): > > Porn wasn’t even widely available 30 years ago. {Does math … 1994!} What are you talking about not widely available??? ---
**Author:** ![Jay\_Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Jay\_Z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jay_Z)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/880 "2024-03-05T22:49:25Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Does math … 1994!} What are you talking about not widely available??? Before the Internet, no, porn was not particularly widely available. Nothing like today. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/881 "2024-03-05T22:49:32Z")
> [@Jay\_Z](#): > > Porn wasn’t even widely available 30 years ago. Read: “I didn’t know about porn 30 years ago and I assume that means it did not exist” ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/882 "2024-03-05T22:52:09Z")
> [@Jay\_Z](#): > > Before the Internet, no, porn was not particularly widely available. Nothing like today. That’s true of nearly everything. 30 years ago I couldn’t order unlimited soap, scissors, paper towels, ice cream, mangoes, little plastic figurines of elephants, or live eels from my couch. Now I can. All those things are much more widely available today. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614.md?page=43) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614.md?page=45)