# How do we feel about teachers fired for posting homemade porn? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [December 14, 2023, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614 "2023-12-14T20:21:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/101 "2023-12-15T09:51:50Z")
One of the teachers in the OP’s story claims to make $10K a month from her account (though in another story on her I found a claim of $1M netted so far) ; the other claims $3K-$5K. So no chump change. According to Only Fans, the top 10% of creators makes $5K/month or more. The average, though, is only a couple hundred bucks a month. So you do have to be good at it and creating a market for yourself, but it’s attainable. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/102 "2023-12-15T11:35:49Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Teachers … are expected to hold everyone to the highest standard of respectful and responsible behaviour. **As role models** , teachers and support staff shall uphold these high standards by: > > - helping students work to their full potential and develop their sense of self-worth; > - empowering students to be positive leaders in their classroom, school, and community; > - communicating regularly and meaningfully with parents; > - maintaining consistent standards of behaviour for all students; > - demonstrating respect for all students, staff, parents, volunteers, and the members of the school community; > - preparing students for the responsibilities of citizenship. Then they should get paid a salary commensurate with those requirements. If they are then there’s no reason for them to take these standards seriously. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/103 "2023-12-15T11:57:00Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Then they should get paid a salary commensurate with those requirements I agree, and in some places they do. Here in Ontario, for instance, although teacher salaries vary across a wide range depending on grade level and experience, most teachers do fairly well. I’m not aware of any that prostitute themselves for extra money. > According to **[recent numbers](http://www.taxpayer.com/media/average_OSSTF_teacher_pay_2019.pdf)** commissioned by the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, high school teachers in the province make, on average, six figures a year — $103,926 with benefits included. > [This is how much the average Ontario high school teacher makes per year](https://www.blogto.com/city/2020/09/average-ontario-teacher-makes-more-100k-year/) It’s just one of many factors, along with decent funding, that has led to the success of the public school system … > **[How Canada became an education superpower](https://www.bbc.com/news/business-40708421)** > > Canada has joined the top ranks of the world's best education system - and its secret weapon has been fairness. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/104 "2023-12-15T12:09:50Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > while in at least a few minutes of searching I haven’t been able to find any instance of an actual teacher recruiting students into pornography But I can see why that’s a concern, based on this from the OP’s linked article: > [@](#): > > Moritz and a former student said they were particularly alarmed when Coppage did a [YouTube](https://fortune.com/company/youtube/) interview with an adult content creator and said she would be willing to film with former students. ---
**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/105 "2023-12-15T12:24:47Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Actions have consequences. A passive, Newtons-first-law-esque way to describe or excuse the choice to control women’s bodies. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/106 "2023-12-15T12:28:11Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > On the other hand, you don’t have to be a prude to see where it might be more difficult to teach middle-schoolers if they’ve seen your online sex videos. Lots of jobs have rules forbidding outside activities that interfere with your ability to perform the job, and I can see where this could fall afoul of one of those rules. That’s it in a nutshell. Having a teacher who is a porn star in front of a classroom full of hormonally saturated adolescents would redefine the term, “distraction”. It would also start a war at school board meetings attended by a large number of outraged parents. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/107 "2023-12-15T12:32:45Z")
> [@Ruken](#): > > > [@wolfpup](#): > > > > Actions have consequences. > > A passive, Newtons-first-law-esque way to describe or excuse the choice to control women’s bodies. Bullshit. I’m as adamantly pro-choice as one could possibly be, and am grateful to be living in a country that has no abortion laws whatsoever. Was there some actual point you wanted to make? ---
**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/108 "2023-12-15T12:32:56Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > It’s about being able to do your job. Having porn videos of yourself out there on the Internet has an impact on your ability to do your job as a teacher. > [@Chronos](#): > > But that snickering and awkwardness is going to impact the students’ learning. If any teacher is ineffective, I’m all for replacing them. But not for just assuming they suddenly can’t do their job. ---
**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/109 "2023-12-15T12:35:38Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Was there some actual point you wanted to make? You’ve highlighted the dissonance well enough to require no further clarification. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/110 "2023-12-15T12:57:10Z")
Here’s a question. Suppose the teacher in question was starring in amateur boxing matches for fun and profit. Really beating the crap out of each other but with gloves. She’s wearing a sports bra and boxing shorts. A spectator who happens to be there videos the match and posts a picture of her with a broken nose and bloody face after the fight. Will there be an equal uproar? Should it be equal? ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/111 "2023-12-15T13:03:19Z")
> [@Llama\_Llogophile](#): > > Nope - because Nazis are bad and sex isn’t. This is the most predictable response in the world, and it completely misses the realities of how decisions are made in the community, and it is completely oblivious to the needs of age-appropriate modeling of sexual behavior. ---
**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/112 "2023-12-15T13:10:35Z")
I believe students must view their teacher as a person of respect and authority in order to effectively learn from them. You can see how much respect the average man or woman has for sex workers by the way they hoot, holler and leer at them in strip clubs, for example. Kids, with their immature limbic systems, have even less control of their emotions than adults. I have no doubt that images of teachers who post on porn sites would make their way to the classroom. Every school has a “_bad kid_” (you know, the kid who delighted in showing you illicit crap when _you_ were in school). All it would take is for the bad kid to take screen shots of the teacher from his dad’s porn site account, then show them at school, where they will spread like wildfire on student’s smartphones. The response won’t be one of respect when they see Miss Crabapple shaking her naked bootie. I have a lot of respect for good teachers. It’s a difficult job, and they aren’t compensated enough for their efforts. I have friends and family members who left the teaching profession (that they once loved) because they couldn’t make ends meet with the low pay, and/or they got fed up dealing with students and their over-protective parents’ lack of respect. I’m all for allowing teachers to find additional sources of income (or, even better, pay them more for teaching)—so long as it doesn’t disrupt the teaching environment. I believe viewing porn shots of your teacher creates a disruptive learning environment. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/113 "2023-12-15T13:24:27Z")
> [@Tibby](#): > > I believe viewing porn shots of your teacher creates a disruptive learning environment. Much moreso than just having an attractive teacher? I went to an all-boys Catholic school. We were plenty distracted enough by teachers we considered attractive. I don’t see how having a sex tape or naked pictures out there could have created even more of a distraction. If it did, it might be for a couple days then back to normal. It’s not like we’re watching porn in school. I really don’t understand this mindset. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/114 "2023-12-15T13:31:52Z")
> [@Ruken](#): > > > [@wolfpup](#): > > > > Was there some actual point you wanted to make? > > You’ve highlighted the dissonance well enough to require no further clarification. I have? For those of us who may be a little slow, maybe you’d care to highlight in detail the alleged dissonance between Republican misogynistic attacks on women’s reproductive rights and the desire to have teachers entrusted with the education and mentoring our children conform to the minimum standards commensurate with the job, including academic and ethical standards and societal mores. ---
**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/115 "2023-12-15T14:05:45Z")
Yes, I believe looking at your attractive, fully clothed teacher is less disruptive than looking at your attractive, naked teacher. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/116 "2023-12-15T14:07:13Z")
In class? ---
**Author:** ![Dorjan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dorjan/32/12440_2.png) [@Dorjan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dorjan)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/117 "2023-12-15T14:07:21Z")
> [@Tibby](#): > > Yes, I believe looking at your attractive, fully clothed teacher is less disruptive than looking at your attractive, naked teacher. No one is looking at naked teaches IN the classroom so how is that less disruptive? ---
**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/118 "2023-12-15T14:17:41Z")
If the teacher was naked _in_ class, that would certainly be disruptive. But, I’m talking about viewing porn photos of the teacher on a cellphone, either in class, or out of class (then being disrupted in thought during class, using their young, hyperactive imagination). I have no problem with teachers engaging in porn for any misguided morality code, I simply believe it would disrupt student learning. ---
**Author:** ![Dorjan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dorjan/32/12440_2.png) [@Dorjan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dorjan)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/119 "2023-12-15T14:20:03Z")
> [@Tibby](#): > > I’m talking about viewing porn photos of the teacher on a cellphone, either in class, or out of class (then being disrupted in thought during class, using their young, hyperactive imagination). Any evidence of this actually happening, or is this just the hyperactive imagination of pearl-clutching parents? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/120 "2023-12-15T14:25:42Z")
**Moderating** @wolfpup, you’re heading off-topic here. Please keep _Republican misogynistic attacks on women’s reproductive rights_ out of this thread. You’re the first to mention them. Additionally, you & @Ruken are both making this too personal, stick to challenging posts and not posters. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614.md?page=7)