# How do we feel about teachers fired for posting homemade porn? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [December 14, 2023, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614 "2023-12-14T20:21:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/161 "2023-12-15T19:06:20Z")
Oh, come on. It’s widely reported the porn business is ripe with criminal behavior. This is common knowledge. And yes the students are involved. Their class room teacher makes pornos! They are very involved and it’s not fair they should have to be. Teacher brought this down on herself. I’ll add her family is probably mortified. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/162 "2023-12-15T19:06:31Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > > [@wolfpup](#): > > > > If a teacher is willing to violate societal norms in this regard, what other norms are they also willing to violate, > > This is not a logically sound proposition. Isn’t it pretty much the logic behind all background checks? ---
**Author:** ![mjmartin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3d9bf3/32.png) [@mjmartin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmartin)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/163 "2023-12-15T19:08:21Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > So much for paying off those student loans for a profession they’ll never practice. It looks like she won’t have problems with the student loans: > **[Former teacher who left education makes nearly $1M on OnlyFans](https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/former-teacher-who-left-education-makes-nearly-1m-onlyfans/GF7EZF4KBRAITOPDKML5SO3IGA/)** > > Brianna Coppage said she made almost $1 million in six months and paid off all of her debt. > [@Beckdawrek](#): > > They will never teach in the US again. This is far from clear. She may never teach in Missouri again, or not in a public school again, but forever is a long time. > [@Beckdawrek](#): > > And…they caused it themselves by making a _foolish_ choice. Lots of people make foolish choices. I’ve made more than a couple. Hell, writing on the SDMB while I’m at work isn’t the best choice. Your moral outrage aside, I’m sure she’ll find a way to move on. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/164 "2023-12-15T19:09:39Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Given that a teacher’s authority and influence is both formal (by virtue of his or her position) and informal (by virtue of earned respect), how do you think a sideline making porn videos, if known to the students, would affect that second important underpinning of a teacher’s function – the ability to influence students from a position of respect? I think after an initial awkward moment or two, everyone would get back to work. > [@wolfpup](#): > > Should everything in a prospective teacher’s background be acceptable, just as long as it wasn’t illegal, or on record as a criminal conviction? No. For example, it’s legal to put on Klan robes and march down main street, but I would object to a Klan member teaching my kids. Unfortunately, it’s probably a good bet that there are currently Klan members teaching. I know when I lived in Memphis, we had Judges who were known to be KKK members. > [@wolfpup](#): > > Applying the philosophical logic of Kant’s categorical imperative, what sort of society would we have if all teachers routinely made sex videos? Putting aside the temptation to joke about it, think about it in terms of the essential teacher-student relationship and the long term downstream effects on all of society. If this happened, I would imagine no one would give it a second thought anymore. It would be pretty routine and no longer violate social norms. > [@wolfpup](#): > > If a teacher is willing to violate societal norms in this regard, what other norms are they also willing to violate, and how does that impact their dialog, influence, and relationship with our children? I guess I value “question authority” more than “societal norms.” I having a hard time imagining what other social norms might cost a teacher their job. Wearing a bathrobe to work, perhaps, or using vulgar language. But outside of the school, these things shouldn’t matter. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/165 "2023-12-15T19:10:19Z")
I hope she gets a book out quickly. Maybe a talk show circuit run. Then off to some third world country to teach English. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/166 "2023-12-15T19:13:06Z")
You didn’t say ‘rife with criminal behavior’ you said “there’s no integrity in the porn business.” I believe that’s moving the goal posts. I’m still waiting for a cite on the no integrity by the way. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/167 "2023-12-15T19:17:27Z")
> [@DocCathode](#): > > You didn’t say ‘rife with criminal behavior’ you said “there’s no integrity in the porn business.” > > I believe that’s moving the goal posts. I’m still waiting for a cite on the no integrity by the way.   I’m not going to do your research for you, but here’s a start: > **[OnlyFans Creators Have Been Contacted In IRS Criminal Investigation, Tax...](https://www.forbes.com/sites/irswatch/2022/12/12/onlyfans-creators-have-been-contacted-in-irs-criminal-investigation-sources-say/?sh=37f818014620)** > > IRS is turning up the heat on OnlyFans contributors. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/168 "2023-12-15T19:18:11Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > I’m not going to do your research for you, but here’s a start: I didn’t ask you too. **Beck** made a claim. I asked her to back it up ---
**Author:** ![mjmartin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3d9bf3/32.png) [@mjmartin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmartin)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/169 "2023-12-15T19:19:20Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Then off to some third world country to teach English. Two years ago I was feeling particularly burned out in my profession. In a fit of annoyance, I sent my application in to teach 7th grade science in a not terribly well funded school system. I have 0 teaching experience, and haven’t been inside a classroom for nearly 2 decades. I was offered the job in the first 10 minutes of the interview. That’s how desperate the school was for a living body that spoke English. All of this to say, I am fairly confident that if she wants to return to teaching, it would take her all of 5 minutes to find a job. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/170 "2023-12-15T19:22:59Z")
There’s tax fraud in porn?!!? OMG! You wouldn’t find that in any respectable industry. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/171 "2023-12-15T19:24:06Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > And yes the students are involved. Their classroom teacher makes pornos! They are very involved and it’s not fair they should have to be. > > Teacher brought this down on herself. No, some busybody who chose to share the video brought it down on her, and society did the rest. And you mentioned “hiding their identity.” Yes, because otherwise she would have lost her job and faced some societal shaming, which she did anyway. Can’t win, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/172 "2023-12-15T19:24:08Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Some questions to ask yourself Or, if you disagree, perhaps make the arguments yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Dorjan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dorjan/32/12440_2.png) [@Dorjan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dorjan)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/173 "2023-12-15T19:26:36Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Oh, come on. It’s widely reported the porn business is ripe with criminal behavior. This is common knowledge. You know there’s a huge difference between setting up an account on OnlyFans and putting out your own content and the archtypical “Burbank California porn industry” right? ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/174 "2023-12-15T19:33:51Z")
Now that I’m on break and have a minute- In an unrelated thread **Beck** didn’t know what pegging was. This would seem to indicate she knows even less about porn and the porn industry than I do- and I’m not holding myself out as a porn expert. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/175 "2023-12-15T19:34:21Z")
I may have missed this if it was covered. Are there any examples where such a teacher was _not_ fired? What happened next? Was it a shit show or did it blow over in a week? I ask because that likely decides it for me. I want to in the “mind your own business” camp, and say let ‘em do whatever they want on their own time that’s not inherently bad (another judgment call, I know). But I also concede that may be naive. If teachers who aren’t fired almost inevitably become the center of a hot mess, I think I’d conclude, “We all suck that we can’t let this slide, but I guess we can’t.” ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/176 "2023-12-15T19:37:19Z")
Oh almost forgot. To put it simply, I’m Chaotic Good. There should be few laws/rules and those rules should exist for a good reason. If it ain’t harming yourself or others, whatever floats your boat. Which is an ethical problem? Being naked on the internet or going to garage sales and paying pennies for an item I can resell at a massive profit later? ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/177 "2023-12-15T19:51:20Z")
This thread is a Head Scratcher > [@Eric1](#): > > I wonder if the Venus of Urbino… What’s going on in the background of this painting??? And who woulda thought Old Granny Beck knew so much about the Porn Industry??? ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/178 "2023-12-15T19:52:37Z")
I knew the IRS would get involved. And you’re right I know very little about porn. I know there’s much criminal behavior associated with it. The particular onlyFans site or whatever it’s called maybe clean. I dare say most people won’t ever believe that line of bullshit. Oh, I didn’t know I had to to _cite_ for my opinions.🤔 I know bad behavior when I see it. There’s no other way to say it. The Teachers involved made bad life choices or decisions on a way to make quick money It backfired. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/179 "2023-12-15T20:11:21Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > The particular onlyFans site or whatever it’s called maybe clean. I dare say most people won’t ever believe that line of bullshit. What bullshit? I don’t know what criminal element there really is there except maybe not reporting your income. They have you fill out a W-9 and mail you a 1099. It’s basically gig economy homemade porn. Not much different than something like YouTube or Twitch except content and how you monetize it. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/180 "2023-12-15T20:14:04Z")
In my **Opinion** they are not clean enough that children should see it. They are obviously not doing their accounts properly. Guys it’s not good. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614.md?page=10)