# How do you do it, Wildest Bill?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-do-it-wildest-bill/45418>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 13, 2000, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-do-it-wildest-bill/45418 "2000-12-13T21:56:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2000, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-do-it-wildest-bill/45418/1 "2000-12-13T21:56:20Z")

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How do you manage to remain willfully ignorant despite the endless cogent and supported arguments presented to you by truckloads of well informed and obviously educated posters?

Where in the bible does it say “Thou shalt not accept new ideas and remain dumb as a bag of hammers in the face of overwhelming evidence which contradicts your pedantic mis-beliefs and assumptions”.

How do you face yourself in the mirror knowing that you’ve absolutely refused to grow intellectually and emotionally every day of your life despite the endless opportunities presented to you to do so?

I must, by now, be painfully aware of the purpose for the SDMB and what its views are with respect to the voracity of ideas/facts and how they are expressed/supported. I can only conclude that you delight in you ever present ignorance and that you revel with masochistic delight when you stubbornly and stupidly refuse to accept any and all reasonable and supported evidence that is contrary to the doctrine in which you are so deeply steeped.

My only remaining question is this: Why do you continue to ask questions and debate subjects when you are so eager to reject any ideas that contrast with your own? Don’t you ever get tired of being a jack-ass or do you get frequent flyer miles at your church for this kind of moronic witnessing?

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**Author:** ![jmullaney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85e7bf/32.png) [@jmullaney](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jmullaney)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2000, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-do-it-wildest-bill/45418/2 "2000-12-13T22:05:04Z")

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**And** – he’s going straight to Hell if he don’t change his ways.

Or at least, that is what the Bible says. Is this Bill guy familiar at all with that document?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2000, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-do-it-wildest-bill/45418/3 "2000-12-13T22:13:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by QuickSilver \*
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> I must, by now, be painfully aware of the purpose for the SDMB…

Should read: _You_ must, by now, be painfully aware…

…And _I_ must, by now, be painfully aware of the purpose for the SDMB post preview function.  
\<walks away muttering curses under his breath…\>

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**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2000, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-do-it-wildest-bill/45418/4 "2000-12-13T22:19:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by QuickSilver \*  
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> How do you face yourself in the mirror knowing that you’ve absolutely refused to grow intellectually and emotionally every day of your life despite the endless opportunities presented to you to do so?  
> \*\*

Hey, it’s not like there’s any _money_ in book-learnin’…

-Ben

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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2000, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-do-it-wildest-bill/45418/5 "2000-12-13T22:31:54Z")

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Is there anything in particular that triggered this? Just curious, not intending to get involved.

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**Author:** ![Falcon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@Falcon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Falcon)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2000, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-do-it-wildest-bill/45418/6 "2000-12-13T22:54:57Z")

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DDG -

See the abstinence thread in GD, which has now branched out to also cover evolution.

Methinks it was the final straw for a lot of us. 🙂

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**Author:** ![2nd\_Law](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/f475e1/32.png) [@2nd\_Law](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2nd_Law)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2000, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-do-it-wildest-bill/45418/7 "2000-12-13T23:07:03Z")

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Interestingly enough, there’s [another pit thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=50796) about Wildest Bill at the moment, to which I just [posted](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=967378#post967378).

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**Author:** ![magdalene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@magdalene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magdalene)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2000, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-do-it-wildest-bill/45418/8 "2000-12-13T23:30:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jmullaney \*  
> \*\ ***And** – he’s going straight to Hell if he don’t change his ways.
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> Or at least, that is what the Bible says. Is this Bill guy familiar at all with that document? \*\*

Joel, do you have some kind of quota for how many threads per day you hijack with YOUR brand of idiotic bible thumping?

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**Author:** ![reprise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@reprise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reprise)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2000, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-do-it-wildest-bill/45418/9 "2000-12-14T00:12:32Z")

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Amen Quicksilver, Amen. 🙂

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**Author:** ![sugaree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@sugaree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugaree)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2000, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-do-it-wildest-bill/45418/10 "2000-12-14T00:30:58Z")

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I have been following the adventures of Bill since he posted as billy the witness at the LBMB. Unfortunately for posterity, the archives there are woefully maintained, but the impression that his posts there and here have left me is that **he has grown. He has matured. He has stretched intellectually.** His posts show both a steady grammatical progression towards legibility and a more thoughtful, considerate, and open-minded Bill.

Really.

I’m serious.

Yeah, I wish you could have seen it too.

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2000, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-do-it-wildest-bill/45418/11 "2000-12-14T01:32:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by QuickSilver \*  
> I must, by now, be painfully aware of the purpose for the SDMB and what its views are with respect to the voracity of ideas/facts and how they are expressed/supported.

But it was his grandmother who told him that story! Are you doubting the voracity of his _grandmother_?

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2000, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-do-it-wildest-bill/45418/12 "2000-12-14T04:16:22Z")

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> His posts show both a steady grammatical progression towards legibility and a more thoughtful, considerate, and open-minded Bill.

Yup, I can corroborate that. Billy the Witness was orders of magnitude more frustrating from a reader’s standpoint than Wildest Bill.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2000, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-do-it-wildest-bill/45418/13 "2000-12-14T04:33:25Z")

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You mean this is BETTER?

Yeesh, I’d hate to see him NOT GROWN!  
_shudder_

Nothing against the guy PERSONALLY, I mean, his silly IMHO, or MPSIMS threads can be interesting (such as What do you like now that you hated as a kid-very good threads!). But when he gets in Great Debates or General Questions…

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**Author:** ![Commander\_Fortune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Commander\_Fortune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Commander_Fortune)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2000, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-do-it-wildest-bill/45418/14 "2000-12-14T06:33:41Z")

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> \*Originally posted by sugaree \*  
> \*\*I have been following the adventures of Bill since he posted as billy the witness at the LBMB. Unfortunately for posterity, the archives there are woefully maintained, but the impression that his posts there and here have left me is that **he has grown. He has matured. He has stretched intellectually.** His posts show both a steady grammatical progression towards legibility and a more thoughtful, considerate, and open-minded Bill.
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> Really.
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> I’m serious.
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> Yeah, I wish you could have seen it too.  
> \*\*

I was there. I saw it. I agree.

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**Author:** ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2000, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-do-it-wildest-bill/45418/15 "2000-12-14T07:39:22Z")

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I honestly can’t decide who’s worse, **Bill** or [Foreskin Boy](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=50903).

No, that’s not true. **Foreskin Boy** is worse. **Bill** may be more _frustrating_, because just when you think you’re getting through to him he says something that proves that all the pounding with the clue-by-four mentioned in other threads has done is wear _you_ out and give _you_ a migraine, but every once in a while he does exhibit learning behavior. Heck, he even occasionally comes up with a cite, whether or not it means what he thinks it does. :rolleyes:

**Foreskin Boy** , OTOH, I wouldn’t enter a thread with. Ever. If I did, if I actually got involved in any way with this particular one-trick pony, I might have to go to Redondo Beach and shoot him myself, just to put me out of my misery. I’m sure one of the lawyers on this board could get me off on an insanity plea of some kind.\*

Still, I have to agree with **Guin**. I’m glad I didn’t meet **Bill** before now, if he’s grown.

[sub]\*note that I am not in fact violent, and do not own a gun. Should FB ever turn up dead somewhere due to shooting I will not be the responsible party. disclaimer required because I don’t doubt he will frustrate someone to this point some day…[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Lux\_Fiat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bc79bd/32.png) [@Lux\_Fiat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lux_Fiat)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2000, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-do-it-wildest-bill/45418/16 "2000-12-14T09:53:04Z")

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> Are you doubting the voracity of his grandmother?

Well, I certainly can’t. I watched her eat an entire Piper Cub once, piece by piece. Damndest thing I ever saw.

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**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2000, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-do-it-wildest-bill/45418/17 "2000-12-14T15:08:55Z")

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Yep, he’s trying, but he’s trying.

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**Author:** ![magdalene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@magdalene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magdalene)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2000, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-do-it-wildest-bill/45418/18 "2000-12-14T16:44:50Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Lux Fiat \*  
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> > [@](#):
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> > Are you doubting the voracity of his grandmother?
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> Well, I certainly can’t. I watched her eat an entire Piper Cub once, piece by piece. Damndest thing I ever saw. \*\*

I never do this, but “mad props”, Lux.

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**Author:** ![jmullaney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85e7bf/32.png) [@jmullaney](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jmullaney)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2000, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-do-it-wildest-bill/45418/19 "2000-12-14T17:32:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by magdalene \*  
> Joel, do you have some kind of quota for how many threads per day you hijack with YOUR brand of idiotic bible thumping?

Hey, fundies who take the Bible literally but don’t actually keep Jesus’s teachings are my favorite meal. But if all he knows is what comes from Chick tracts, I think I’d better just cross his name off my list. Forget I brought it up. 😃

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2000, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-do-it-wildest-bill/45418/20 "2000-12-14T17:38:50Z")

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If this is improved Bill, my God…

There ain’t a clue-by-four yet invented that will smack sense into Bill.

Yet we continue to try!

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