# How do you expect the shutdown to end? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 1, 2013, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-expect-the-shutdown-to-end/670088 "2013-10-01T14:10:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2013, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-expect-the-shutdown-to-end/670088/181 "2013-10-16T20:13:32Z")
Would that be a reinstatement of the Gephardt Rule, where the debt ceiling was automatically raised (by deem-and-pass) whenever a budget exceeding it was passed? That was too obvious to survive, of course. ---
**Author:** ![computergeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e56c9b/32.png) [@computergeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/computergeek)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-expect-the-shutdown-to-end/670088/182 "2013-10-17T02:27:18Z")
Both House and Senate have passed the bill to end the shutdown and raise the debt ceiling. It was not unanimous. Cutting it kind of close there. I have grown to hate the Tea Party with the heat of 5,000 Suns. They’ve ruined my party. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-expect-the-shutdown-to-end/670088/183 "2013-10-17T02:38:37Z")
No. The leaders of your party ruined it when they preferred to embrace insanity rather than fall back into a dignified position of loyal opposition. A conservative is best a person who recognizes the need for progress but urges caution and prudence. Opposing progress because it represents change is reactionary. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-expect-the-shutdown-to-end/670088/184 "2013-10-17T03:01:31Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Opposing progress because it represents change is reactionary. Nothing wrong with opposing change in general, I detest it myself, but opposing poor kids having access to health care fellates with great allacrity. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-expect-the-shutdown-to-end/670088/185 "2013-10-17T04:01:14Z")
Given that a deal is all-but-done now ( [New York Times article, with priceless pic of Boehner](http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/17/us/congress-budget-debate.html?_r=0) ) and we have a new thread asking: “[Given this deal how do things play out from here?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=705118)” (OP by **DSeid** ), may I respectfully suggest that this thread should be closed now, with further discussion to continue over there? Or, leave this thread open just a bit longer, for the sole purpose of Dopers commenting on that priceless pic of Boehner 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-expect-the-shutdown-to-end/670088/186 "2013-10-17T07:58:37Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Nothing wrong with opposing change in general, I detest it myself, but opposing poor kids having access to health care fellates with great allacrity. I hate change. Just round that shit to the nearest whole dollar. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-expect-the-shutdown-to-end/670088.md?page=9)