# How do you feel about Texas?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-feel-about-texas/937412>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 8, 2021, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-feel-about-texas/937412 "2021-03-08T00:20:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-feel-about-texas/937412/41 "2021-03-09T01:15:56Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> I’ve driven across it a couple times. That was pretty brutal.

Friends and I had to drive from New Orleans to Phoenix a few decades ago, and we literally started shouting when we hit El Paso. It felt like a week of driving. And boooooooring scenery. I know there are pretty places in Texas (ThelmaLou’s backyard) but I haven’t been to them.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-feel-about-texas/937412/42 "2021-03-09T01:17:22Z")

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I have such mixed feelings about Texas. I was born & raised there, lived in Dallas, Fort Worth, some suburbs of each, and Austin, and then left at 35. At the time I left, strip malls, golf courses, apartment complexes, and highways were metastasizing across the cities I’d lived in, and I’d have enough of endless driving and heat.

I do miss some of the people I knew, and I still love some bits of Texas, but at this point I’m closer to New Englander than Texan.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-feel-about-texas/937412/43 "2021-03-09T01:20:59Z")

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Next time they introduce a bill to secede in their Legislature, we should withhold Hurricane Relief, until they apologize & admit it’s all garbage.

🤠 💩

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-feel-about-texas/937412/44 "2021-03-09T01:50:37Z")

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I consider them fairly backwards in a lot of ways, but in their defense their housing is affordable due to lack of regulations. They don’t let zoning boards intentionally limit housing to drive up prices like California does.

Don’t like the heat. I’ve been there, but not extensively.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-feel-about-texas/937412/45 "2021-03-09T02:10:49Z")

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I’ve been in one corner of Texas, for one day, many years ago. It was nice and the few people I met there in the process were nice to me. The sample isn’t large enough to mean much.

Texas is a very large state with a whole lot of people in it. I assume that it therefore contains a whole lot of variation, both in the land and in the people.

Texas appears to have a very poor setup, due to lack of regulation, both for preventing storage facilities for explosive materials from blowing up residential areas and for keeping the electricity on. On the other hand, Texas produced Molly Ivins, which was definitely a good thing.

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**Author:** ![shh1313](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shh1313/32/8020_2.png) [@shh1313](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shh1313)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-feel-about-texas/937412/46 "2021-03-09T12:28:51Z")

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@ Left\_Hand\_ There is a need for that! It was slim pickin’s the one time I was looking to rent a tux. In Dallas I found 1 place with the right size without driving and sitting in a traffic jam.

I Have lived in Texas since 79 and economically speakiing, it was a win for me. I found the Texans treated outsiders with skepticism and were slow to become friends with outsiders initially. The Texans that became my friends remain my friends.They were very helpful in finiancial matters and in business climate. Without their advice and help I would have had a much harder time establishing my business.  
The one thing I can’t stand about Texas is the church going; lying, drinking, drug taking, stuck up, bIg mouthed, adulterating hypocrites in the small towns with their gossip mills. Where do you think all their politicians got their training?  
If all that energy was harvested you would have enough power to provide every small town in Texas 100% green energy.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-feel-about-texas/937412/47 "2021-03-09T12:46:20Z")

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We should let them.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-feel-about-texas/937412/48 "2021-03-09T12:59:33Z")

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Where else can you get Southern ignorance without all that pesky Southern hospitality?

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-feel-about-texas/937412/49 "2021-03-09T13:02:21Z")

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I was once stationed in San Antonio for a short time, and I’ve visited Dallas, Houston, and Austin. My chief distinct impression is that driving is a nightmare around the cities. The. traffic is heavy, the highways are weird, the drivers are erratic. Especially in SA there was this janky access road system that I guess was intended to give drivers time to accelerate, because the on-ramps are like 1/5th as long as I’m accustomed to. All around me, Suburbans whipping around changing 3 lanes at a time.

The vibe in San Antonio was kind of different. I can’t explain the subjective feeling very well, but it really felt isolated from both the US and from Mexico, sort of a frontier outpost. I’ve never had tex-mex food like that, though, it was amazing.

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-feel-about-texas/937412/50 "2021-03-09T16:13:30Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> Every person I have ever met from Texas has been amazing.
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> It’s worth noting they were each choosing not to live in Texas.

A lot of good people come out of Texas.

And they never go back!

I’ve driven Route 66 many, many times. That part of Texas seems nice. If a bit flat.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-feel-about-texas/937412/51 "2021-03-09T16:31:55Z")

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Texas is a big place so, statistically, I’m sure much of it is fine and parts are splendid. Likewise, I’m sure most people are fine and some are wonderful. All the ones I’ve known, though, were insufferable. I’ll admit to some amusement during the winter storm thing. Again, feeling bad for individuals affected but smirking at how quickly the whole “We’re only Americans as a favor to you guys” thing fell apart.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-feel-about-texas/937412/52 "2021-03-10T21:11:05Z")

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Texas: A nice place to be _from_.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-feel-about-texas/937412/53 "2021-03-10T21:36:18Z")

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Texas is fine as long as the Texans stay in Texas. Of course, we say the same about California.

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-feel-about-texas/937412/54 "2021-03-10T22:09:43Z")

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I’m an Indigo Girls fan. Emily Saliers mentions Texas in two of her songs.

The first verse of “Southland in the Springtime” has the lines

_Played our heart out all night long in New Orleans_  
_We’re dirty from the diesel fumes, drinking coffee black,_  
_When the first breath of Texas comes in clean._

That makes a powerful impression.

Then more recently Emily titled a whole song “Texas Was Clean.” Beginning:

_Texas was clean like an oilman’s dream_  
_A slate that I’d never written on_

and concludes

_I wanna go there (It’s just another place to go)_  
_As far from the South without getting out_

Is it wise to get one’s geography from music? Perhaps not, but I love music and I really love the Indigo Girls. As far as geographical songs go, I think the line “_As far from the South without getting out_” perfectly sums it up.

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-feel-about-texas/937412/55 "2021-03-10T22:39:48Z")

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I really miss Molly Ivins, that’s how I really feel.

I love Willie Nelson with all my heart.

Has anyone checked out Jared Padalecki’s new _Walker_ series? It’s his rebound from _Supernatural_. Jared suffers from depression and I’m glad to see him working on something he loves. The show is all TEXAS! this and TEXAS! that, and the best thing about it is Ramirez, the first female Chicana Texas Ranger.

> [@Ulfreida](#):
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> If one was raised (as I was) to be modest about one’s accomplishments, open-minded, civil, and with a sense of civic duty, then just about every single quality of Texas culture is grating except those which are deeply offensive. Texans are proudly and vociferously racist reactionary braggarts, how that is laudable in any way passes my understanding.

As a general rule, you know how Texans appear to other Americans like you & me? That’s how Americans appear to the rest of the world.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-feel-about-texas/937412/56 "2021-03-10T23:27:35Z")

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> [@Johanna](#):
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> As a general rule, you know how Texans appear to other Americans like you & me? That’s how Americans appear to the rest of the world.

Yes, I am aware. Texans even outboor other Americans.

God I miss Molly Ivins.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-feel-about-texas/937412/57 "2021-03-10T23:35:14Z")

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Been awhile, most impressed with the local air carriers. Commuter turbo prop service between far afield Texas cities. Only way to cross that damn state.

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2021, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-feel-about-texas/937412/58 "2021-03-11T02:21:11Z")

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> [@Johanna](#):
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> As a general rule, you know how Texans appear to other Americans like you & me? That’s how Americans appear to the rest of the world.

[![](https://i0.wp.com/boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Texas_large_large1.jpg?w=970) ](https://i0.wp.com/boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Texas_large_large1.jpg?w=970)

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2021, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-feel-about-texas/937412/59 "2021-03-11T05:28:16Z")

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When I decide to retire permanently Texas is on our short list as to where we are going to spend the remainder of our lives.

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2021, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-feel-about-texas/937412/60 "2021-03-11T15:57:07Z")

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> [@Johanna](#):
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> As a general rule, you know how Texans appear to other Americans like you & me? That’s how Americans appear to the rest of the world.

Great observation.

Of course, the idea of the “ugly American” is not exactly new.

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