How do you phrase the 2nd person plural

Heh, I see I’m still the sole “Ye” sayer so far anyway :slight_smile:

Incidentally, I didn’t include it as a poll option because I’d never heard of it, but has anyone ever heard “Yinz”

from Grammatical person - Wikipedia in the “colloquial” section.

See Post #13 for the closest I’ve heard to that version.

Hmm, you’re right actually, I’d been parsing that as a contraction of “you ones” but that applies equally to yinz I guess.

Ye here, although sometimes it’s ye other time yiz.

You jackeen dub :stuck_out_tongue:

Definitely “you guys.”

I am intrigued by Guizot’s statement that this construction is somehow considered substandard. I’ve never heard this objection. If anyone can point me to studies that were done on this, I’d love to see them.

(I did once read a South Carolina columnist argue that it was not correct to use “you guys” to refer to “women of a certain age,” but that was in the context of a rant about too many Northerners moving to his town, making it a somewhat different criticism.)

I’d be really curious to see studies confirming the

I caught myself saying, ‘you guys’ this afternoon when asking my son what he and his girlfriend would be doing on New Year’s Eve. Maybe I do it all the time and I’ve never noticed.

What do you mean, “you people”??! :dubious:

This cracks me up to no end. :stuck_out_tongue:

“You guys” most of the time and “you all” once in a while.

‘You’ if there’s no ambiguity. ‘You guys’ or ‘you lot’ if I need to make it clearer that I’m talking to more than one person. I’m in Australia, if location matters.

Depends on who am I adressing and on context:

you is the proper form,
you guys, you all, y’all, for friends. I tend to absorb and reflect people’s dialects, in English as in Spanish.

Hey I’m from Co. Meath originally!

You, and I don’t find it hard to phrase questions. If I do think it might be ambiguous, I actually say “you - plural!” if that’s what I mean.

coming up with y’all was one of the best things to come out of the south.

Oh, I also say “all of you” sometimes.

Like hell it is says this…uh…well…

OK, you got me.

Actually, though, the “sure enough” hillbillies I have known don’t say “y’all.” They say “you’uns” (you ones, I guess) which comes out “yins.”

There is no such thing as a neutral accent. You can have a mixed accent. You can have a Mid-western accent (which sounds a little neutral since it is the broadcast standard). But there is no neutral. By the way, I’m from West Tennessee also. I’m not suggesting that you have retained a WT accent, but my husband can tell the difference when I’m on the phone with a WT friend just by the way I talk. It’s different from how I talk with Middle Tennessee friends.

I use a variety of 2nd person plurals. I do it without thinking usually. I’ve noticed “you guys” creeping in more and more. There is no reason to be snobbish about the use. I prefer “y’all” in informal situations.

I don’t know what “hillbillies” use. I’ve never been around any. West Tennessee is generally sort of flat except up around the 1812 earthquake area (close to Missouri). Middle Tennessee has more hills, but the real estate tends to be expensive these days. I think Ponch8 has been watching too much television. (Most of it is made up by California writers, Ponch.)

It’s not uniquely Southern. It exists in the Indian dialect of South African English as well, and probably independently, given the lack of ties. I don’t know if it’s common in Southern Indian English dialects as well.