# How do you pronounce "often?"

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 30, 2010, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-often/537866 "2010-04-30T14:33:58Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-often/537866/21 "2010-04-30T16:47:20Z")

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“Off’n” here, though I’ve been known to pronounce the t at times. Not sure why or what occasions those are, but I know I’ve done it.

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Off-tin for more formal speech, or when used as a one word answer.  
Off-in when I’m more casual or speaking fast.

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OFF’n.

Southern CA

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-often/537866/24 "2010-04-30T17:19:47Z")

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Offen, Michigan.

When I’m reading I often hear it as off-ten but I say it the other way.

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Offen.  
There’s a couple of American nuns who would get out of their graves to strangle me if I thought of pronouncing the T.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-often/537866/26 "2010-04-30T17:29:44Z")

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“Off-ten” western Canada.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-often/537866/27 "2010-04-30T17:35:10Z")

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No “t”, grew up in central Illinois.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-often/537866/28 "2010-04-30T17:48:47Z")

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Off’n or offt’n - probably depending on some sort of conversational or subjective context, but I don’t know what. I do know I say it both ways.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-often/537866/29 "2010-04-30T18:15:22Z")

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> [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](#):
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> Off-tin for more formal speech, or when used as a one word answer.  
> Off-in when I’m more casual or speaking fast.

Same here; I was born and raised in New Orleans.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-often/537866/30 "2010-04-30T18:19:52Z")

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No ‘t,’ which sounds sort of pretentious to me. New Jersey-born and raised.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-often/537866/31 "2010-04-30T18:28:53Z")

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The “t” is silent - and I am originally from Illinois, but as you can see from location, have moved around a bit.

For those who do pronounce the “t” - do you also pronounce the “t” when saying the word “soften”?

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-often/537866/32 "2010-04-30T18:34:12Z")

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“T” for me.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-often/537866/33 "2010-04-30T18:41:06Z")

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The “correct” (i.e., original) pronunciation is “offen.” For some reason, scribes added the “t” (possibly misreading “offen”) and people began to pronounce it the way it was misspelled.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-often/537866/34 "2010-04-30T18:54:10Z")

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Off’n.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-often/537866/35 "2010-04-30T18:55:09Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> The “correct” (i.e., original) pronunciation is “offen.” For some reason, scribes added the “t” (possibly misreading “offen”) and people began to pronounce it the way it was misspelled.

Cite?

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-often/537866/36 "2010-04-30T19:11:35Z")

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with an E offen…Tennessee

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-often/537866/37 "2010-04-30T19:12:12Z")

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‘Offen’ Northern New Jersey.

\<ranty\>Hearing the t drives me nuts. It ruins songs for me. Silent t, like listen, hasten, fasten. I suspect an elderly 3rd grade teacher drilled that into me. The t is spoken around here, maybe 50/50, and I grit my teeth.\</ranty\>

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-often/537866/38 "2010-04-30T19:17:37Z")

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Silent T - I spent my language formative years in Maryland - around Baltimore. The pronounced “t” makes me stabby.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-often/537866/39 "2010-04-30T19:42:42Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Cite?

> **[Definition of OFTEN](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/often)**
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> many times : frequently… See the full definition

Main Entry: of·ten  
Pronunciation: \ˈȯ-fən, ÷ˈȯf-tən\

The “÷” sign means that it “occurs in educated speech but [..] is considered by some to be questionable or unacceptable”.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-often/537866/40 "2010-04-30T20:00:19Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> The “correct” (i.e., original) pronunciation is “offen.” For some reason, scribes added the “t” (possibly misreading “offen”) and people began to pronounce it the way it was misspelled.

I am absolutely sure that everyone who doesn’t pronounce the ‘t’ knows this, and that is the sole reason they don’t pronounce it.

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