# How Do You Pronounce "Podkayne"?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-podkayne/680161>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 30, 2014, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-podkayne/680161 "2014-01-30T20:30:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-podkayne/680161/21 "2014-01-31T00:58:47Z")

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> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#):
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> All of which are guesses.
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> :smack:
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> Anybody know how **Heinlein** pronounced it?

I think you meant to send this as a PM to him, since the title and OP specify “How do **you** pronounce Podkayne?”

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-podkayne/680161/22 "2014-01-31T02:16:11Z")

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> [@Ferret\_Herder](#):
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> I think you meant to send this as a PM to him, since the title and OP specify “How do **you** pronounce Podkayne?”

Robert Heinlein died in 1988, I believe.

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-podkayne/680161/23 "2014-01-31T02:36:24Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Q](#):
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> Throatwarbler Mangrove.

TEE-ah-Tim-ah.

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-podkayne/680161/24 "2014-01-31T02:49:52Z")

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[You could ask him](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) but he hasn’t been active since late 2006.

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-podkayne/680161/25 "2014-01-31T02:52:27Z")

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how is Heinlein pronounced? Hineline? Hanelane? Haneline? I am confused.🆒😕

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-podkayne/680161/26 "2014-01-31T03:00:00Z")

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> [@sinjin](#):
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> how is Heinlein pronounced? Hineline? Hanelane? Haneline? I am confused.🆒😕

“heen-LEEN”

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-podkayne/680161/27 "2014-01-31T03:10:47Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> [You could ask him](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php) but he hasn’t been active since late 2006.

Pssst. #11

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-podkayne/680161/28 "2014-01-31T03:22:39Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Pssst. #11

_Note to self. Replace glasses_

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-podkayne/680161/29 "2014-01-31T04:23:30Z")

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> [@sinjin](#):
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> how is Heinlein pronounced?

Last I looked, he was pronounced dead.

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-podkayne/680161/30 "2014-01-31T04:28:37Z")

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> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#):
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> Robert Heinlein died in 1988, I believe.

Yes. So you’re a tad late in requesting that he respond to you.

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-podkayne/680161/31 "2014-01-31T04:37:11Z")

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Holy. Crap. I read Podkayne of Mars when I was in MIDDLE SCHOOL. And here it is turned up in my golden years. where else on the whole of the internet that I wander would I see this, but here??

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-podkayne/680161/32 "2014-01-31T04:49:13Z")

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I’ve always heard it as “pod-KAYN.”

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-podkayne/680161/33 "2014-01-31T07:53:47Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Suzanne Collins must have been channeling Heinlein’s gift for WTF female names when she came up with “Katniss.”

\<momentary hijack\>Katniss is a [plant](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagittaria_sagittifolia), not a word that Collins invented. Fits with Primrose, another plant/flower name. There’s a reference in the first (I think) book about her father showing her where to find the plant, and if she always knew where to find herself, she’d never be hungry.

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-podkayne/680161/34 "2014-01-31T08:03:18Z")

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> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#):
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> Anybody know how **Heinlein** pronounced it?

Pretty sure he pronounced it “Cha-Ching!” all the way to the bank.

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-podkayne/680161/35 "2014-01-31T10:31:36Z")

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The fuck?

Heinlein wrote for a living, sure. But it’s very clear he cared about what got published in his name.

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-podkayne/680161/36 "2014-01-31T12:43:28Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> I can only think of two names and one nickname that are remotely WTF in Heinlein: Podkayne (which \*he \*pronounced pod-kain; second-guess as you like), Allucquere (which I considered for my daughter) and Deety aka Dejah Thoris. The rest of his female character names tend to be alien constructions like Mary, Betty and Hazel.
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> Suzanne Collins seems to have sat in one of those creative writing workshops that instilled the rule that “weird almost-normal-sounding names are good world-building.”
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> They’re not.

So it doesn’t bother you that Heinlein decided to name one of his female characters “Wyoming Knott”?

Heinlein had the sense of humor and the discipline to only have one character ever comment on her name being “Wy Knott”, and that character being a self-aware computer trying to fathom the mysteries of humor. But still, that name seems calculated solely for the purpose of being outrageous.

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-podkayne/680161/37 "2014-01-31T14:08:59Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> I can only think of two names and one nickname that are remotely WTF in Heinlein: Podkayne (which \*he \*pronounced pod-kain; second-guess as you like), Allucquere (which I considered for my daughter) and Deety aka Dejah Thoris. The rest of his female character names tend to be alien constructions like Mary, Betty and Hazel.
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> Suzanne Collins seems to have sat in one of those creative writing workshops that instilled the rule that “weird almost-normal-sounding names are good world-building.”
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> They’re not.

Umm, I thought Dejah Thoris was from Edgar Rice Burroughs John Carter series.

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-podkayne/680161/38 "2014-01-31T14:14:38Z")

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> [@Wargamer](#):
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> Umm, I thought Dejah Thoris was from Edgar Rice Burroughs John Carter series.

She was. That’s the inspiration for his naming a character Djah Thoris (“Deety”) Burroughs (hint, hint) in **The Number of the Beast**

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Ahh, OK. I never got around to reading **The Number of the Beast**.

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[QUOTE=CalMeacham]  
So it doesn’t bother you that Heinlein decided to name one of his female characters “Wyoming Knott”?  
[/QUOTE]

Where people using “Dakota” back then? Doesn’t seem that much of a stretch from that, to non-american ears.

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