# How do you pronounce "Sauron"?

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**Created:** [December 13, 2008, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-sauron/477029 "2008-12-13T18:16:14Z")\
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When I read LOTR as a kid I automatically mentally pronounced the “Saur-” like the “-saur” in “dinosaur” – “sore - on.”

But in the movies they pronounced it “sow - ron.”

How did JRRT intend it to be pronounced?

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As in the movies. Read the pronunciation guide in the books sometime.

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I’ve always pronounced it _sow_-ron also. First place I encountered the name was here on the SDMB.

Wait, in saying it a few times, I may actually say it more like _sour_-on. But now I’m paying too much attention to it.

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**Sow** ron is correct.

[The Encyclopedia of Arda](http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/default.asp): is a good place to look for a [pronunciations](http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/s/sauron.html).

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> [@KneadToKnow](#):
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> I’ve always pronounced it _sow_-ron also.

But _which_ “sow”—the pig one or the seeds one?

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2008, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-sauron/477029/6 "2008-12-13T20:19:21Z")

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Not the pig one. But saw-ron is how it always came to me, but it’s similar to what they said in the movies.

Though the first time I ever encountered the name Sauron was from the Sega Video game “[Primal Rage](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primal_Rage#Characters)”. And it’s still what I tend to think of when I hear the name…

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> But _which_ “sow”—the pig one or the seeds one?

Excellent point. 😃

It’s the oinky one for me.

And to this part of the OP:

> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> How did JRRT intend it to be pronounced?

When in doubt, go by however Christopher Lee says it. He’s the [only person associated with the film to have actually known Tolkien](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120737/trivia).

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> [@Ro0sh](#):
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> Not the pig one.

:smack: I meant the pig one.  
I was thinking to myself, “Who sows pigs?”

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2008, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-pronounce-sauron/477029/9 "2008-12-13T21:26:50Z")

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Yup, “Sour-on”. The man himself said it.

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> [@Ro0sh](#):
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> :smack: I meant the pig one.  
> I was thinking to myself, “Who sows pigs?”

As ye sow, so shall ye reap.

**OINK!!!**

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Always fun to see **ShibbOleth** in a pronunciation thread. 🙂

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You pronounce “Sauron” however the Lord of Mordor wishes that name to be pronounced, if you know what’s good for you.

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Sauron rhymes with sauna.

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> [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#):
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> Sauron rhymes with sauna.

No it doesn’t.

**Sow** -ron, like **sour**. **Saw** -na, like chain **saw**.

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> No it doesn’t.
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> **Sow** -ron, like **sour**. **Saw** -na, like chain **saw**.

Yes it does.

**Sow** -ron, like **sau** rkraut. **Sow** -na, because it’s a Finnish word and my step-father was from Finland and that’s the way it’s pronounced. 😛

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Yes it does.
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> **Sow** -ron, like **sau** rkraut. **Sow** -na, because it’s a Finnish word and my step-father was from Finland and that’s the way it’s pronounced. 😛

No it doesn’t, because the final syllables are completely different 😛

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> [@Manduck](#):
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> No it doesn’t, because the final syllables are completely different 😛

I knew someone would say that, but I don’t know a word like ‘rhymes’ that means the first part of a word so I just used what **Tapioca Dextrin** used. Think of it as a very broad interpretation of ‘rhyme’. 😉

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I knew someone would say that, but I don’t know a word like ‘rhymes’ that means the first part of a word so I just used what **Tapioca Dextrin** used. Think of it as a very broad interpretation of ‘rhyme’. 😉

That’s what I figured you meant too. Does anyone know the proper word for this?

Valete,  
Vox Imperatoris

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I’ve never heard sauna pronounced **sow** na before. Where is that common? (Other than Finland, apparently.)

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> I’ve never heard sauna pronounced **sow** na before. Where is that common? (Other than Finland, apparently.)

Well, I don’t say it exactly like **sow** na, but closer to the sound of “saw” with no “w” at the end. Basically, the same way I say Sauron. Maybe it’s because we’re imagining the word “saw” differently (the way I say it rhymes with draw).

Valete,  
Vox Imperatoris

PS: I tried to use **sau** na as a phonetic way of representing the way I say it before I made an important realization. 😛

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